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Transcript: English(auto-generated)
00:17
Thank you for your kind introduction.
00:21
I am very happy indeed to be back again talking here to this distinguished audience in Lindau. I have chosen a subject today which I think will be of interest to a wide section of thinking people.
00:41
It deals with the problem of brain and mind, which is, I would say, the most outstanding problem confronting man today. I first want to tell you that by conscious experience, I don't use the word mind, it's often misused, but by conscious experience I mean something that each of us has privately
01:01
for himself. And there are various aspects of it to illustrate. First of all, there is outer sensing, that is everything given to us in perception through all of our receptor organs, such as vision and hearing and touch and so on.
01:21
Then there is inner sensing, and this is more subtle. This is the experiences we have in our thinking, in our memories, in our dreams, in our imagining. All of this inner life that we spend so much of our time in communion with, this is inner sensing. And finally, central to it all, is the ego or self.
01:44
This is something that gives us our continuity throughout life, our sense of identity and continuity. It is interrupted, of course, by sleep in other less pleasant ways, but it is the stream that has carried us on from our earliest times.
02:00
Now, on the basis of this, I want to now go in to consider the brain-mind problem. There is, at the present time, quite remarkable advances in this field, some of them have not been fully understood and followed up. I hope to introduce you to some of these new thinkings that comes out of this work
02:24
quite recently. I will base my talk on experimental evidence with regard to the split brain experiments of Sperry and to the speech areas, as have been known for a long time, but which recently have come into prominence again.
02:43
Now, we'll have the first slide, please. And here is a human brain, the left hemisphere looked at from the side, and here you see the convolutions and the motor cortex here, and here the sensory somatic cortex, and here
03:01
is where vision comes in, and here is where hearing comes, and then the rest of it is labeled interpretive, but there's also speech areas there. In this general diagram, we'll have the next slide. We can simplify it now. Here you have shown the speech areas.
03:20
The Broca area here in this inferior frontal convolution, first discovered over a hundred years ago, it's gives right by Broca and defects there, lesions there, gave the patient inability to speak coherently, although he could understand, he couldn't actually make good conversation, good speech.
03:42
Behind here is the larger and much more important area, discovered a few years later by Wernicke, and in this area, lesions, this was all done on human lesion work, quite magnificent clinical work, when you come to think of it, back those long time ago, the patient could speak in a kind, still able to speak, but he only spoke nonsense,
04:02
he couldn't understand, he lost, as it were, the sense of language. And this is a supplementary one up here. Now, this work, of course, has got immense clinical base now, and all kinds of additional areas, a lexia and a graphia and so on, described. The other point I want to make about this picture is that if you stimulate here with
04:23
a gentle current, for example, as Penfield has done, you get interference with speech, particularly here. The patient will be saying, counting, and he'll go on and say, one, two, three, three, three, three, while the stimulus is on, and then goes on afterwards, or he may stop altogether, or he may lose the sense of what he's saying while the stimulus is
04:41
applied in this area. And in that way, you can delimit these areas by electrical stimulation with interference results. Much other work has supported this whole idea of the speech areas being localized in this way, and in 98% of human beings, it is in the left hemisphere.
05:02
But you can also get, by the way, vocalization by stimulating here. And we'll have now the next slide, which shows you the right hemisphere. So it's the mirror image, and here is the, and along here is the motor area. And if you stimulate here, you get vocalization, all kinds of sounds, but no words clearly
05:23
said at all. It's just voice control, motor area. Otherwise, stimulation here gives you nothing in the way of linguistic performance. And lesions here don't interfere with language at all, except in this one to two percent. Now, you might think it's to do with left-handed and right-handedness, but that is not so.
05:43
Almost all left-handed patients also, people, have their speech on the other side. Only a few of them have their speech in the right hemisphere, but that is, in this very rare number, a speech in the right side. So that's the first point I want to make, is this remarkable localization of speech
06:04
to one side of the brain. And I don't think that this has been fully appreciated when we come to think of how does it come about, how did it grow that way, how did it come that you spoke using your left brain and certain areas there and not your right brain.
06:22
This I will come to later. Now, I want to now go into the, oh, by the way, animals, even if you stimulate this area, you hardly get even vocalization, these quarrels, say a chimpanzee and so on. They are practically always mute when you stimulate in all areas, and of course they
06:41
have no proper speech. Now, the next evidence I want to jump across to, and we'll go back to the speech after this, is to the work of Sperry. And he split the brain, cutting the corpse, because he was working on split-brain patients.
07:01
If we have the next slide, we'll see what this means. Here is a, this by the way is a chimpanzee brain, but it's just like a human one really in these respects, good enough. Here are the two hemispheres, the left and the right, and here is this great tract of fibers joining the two cerebral hemispheres.
07:21
You see, we have one here, and they are apparently independent, except for deep areas here, except for this crossing here of the big commissural tract. It has 200 million fibers, which is an enormous number, and it connects across symmetrical areas on the two sides in almost all parts of the brain.
07:43
There are now known to be blind areas to the corpus callosum. We won't bother about those. What you can do in these patients is to sever the corpus callosum. It's a nice clean lesion going through white matter only. If you cut here, you see you destroy all kinds and make a messy damage, but this
08:01
is a quite clean and sharp lesion that you can make in this way. Now, why do you do it? It seems a dreadful thing to do on human beings, but there was good therapeutic reason. These subjects have incessant epilepsy. Interfits many times a day, and their life is becoming quite hopeless.
08:20
And it was thought that by cutting the corpus callosum, you could stop at least one hemisphere from being incited by the epileptic seizures in the other. And it was also known on animal experiments, as Barry had worked on quite a lot, that cutting the corpus callosum in chimpanzees didn't give too bad an after-effects in the way of performance and behavior.
08:43
So they cut the corpus callosum in these subjects to stop the epileptic seizures in one bad hemisphere affecting the other. But it turned out it was better than that. They stopped both hemispheres in almost all cases from having epilepsy, either one. It turned out that it looked like as if this one was inciting this one and this
09:02
one backwards and forwards through the corpus callosum. And if you cut it, they behave much better. So the patients have done very well, and there are now over 20 of these patients in the Los Angeles area that have had their cutting of the corpus callosum. And hence, you might say, except for the lower areas,
09:21
a complete separation in their two hemispheres. The important thing about these experiments of Sperry's, and I think they're the most important experiments ever done on human brains, was to examine these cases very carefully indeed. And this, I think, is a masterpiece of investigation that he has presented over
09:41
the last eight years or so. Next slide. I will show, first of all, a diagram of his. Here is the two brains. Here is the left hemisphere we're looking for on top, the right hemisphere. Here's the corpus callosum connecting the two. And here is the lesion across. One of the things that's very important about this is how you get the information
10:03
into these two hemispheres from the receptor organs. And the eyes give you the most sharp separation. Here you will see a visual field, the left visual field and the right visual field. And the left visual field will go into this eye here and this eye here.
10:21
And then as you look at the optic nerve and the chiasma here, you'll see that the left visual field comes through to this hemisphere and appears in the right hemisphere. So in the right hemisphere, you get the visual half field of the left. And vice versa, for the right visual field, it comes here and comes here.
10:40
So you have a clear separation now. Your brain separation is this hemisphere is a split here. And now all left visual field information comes to this right hemisphere. And the right visual field comes to the left hemisphere. This you will understand is the language hemisphere with the linguistic areas in it.
11:00
And also, this diagram shows that for your hands and the sensation from your hands and the movements of your hands, the left hand is run from the right hemisphere here and the right hand from the left hemisphere for movements and sensing. That's because of the decussation of the pathways.
11:22
From this basis now, we'll be able to see the way in which the testing is done. Next slide, please. Here is an example. And I've seen these happenings myself. It's a very simple but very elegant technique. The subject sits here. The examiner is here. The subject is looking at a central spot here.
11:42
And in fact, the examiner is fixing his gaze there. And the examiner has a way of seeing that he really is doing that all the time. And then you can project onto this screen here, onto the left visual field, which will be this side, or the right visual field, that side, the subject fixing there all the time.
12:01
And you have here a screen and the subject's hand, in this case the left hand, can go under the screen so he can't see what's happening at all and perform with sensing, a tactile sense and movement there. That's the setup of the experiment. The important thing that Sperry did was to flash only for a tenth of a second, no longer.
12:23
And if you flash for a tenth of a second, the subject's eyes can't move across so that his right eye, so that he could shift his right visual field over to here by moving his eyes or vice versa. So you can be quite sure, in these cases, that what is flashed into the left visual field only goes into the right visual cortex and vice versa.
12:45
Then the hands, for example, now to give you a look at the picture, he could have, for example, the word pencil flashed here in the left visual field and his hand goes out here and searches all these various object spoons and so on
13:02
and pyramids and spheres and will search them or feel them and always comes up with the right object. It's extremely accurately done by the left visual field to the left hand and yet the subject knows nothing about this.
13:21
He doesn't seem the message. He hasn't, in fact, known what the hand was doing at all and he doesn't know it's a success. He knows nothing. The next slide will give you an example of that. Here, the word nut is flashed on the left visual field. There's the fixation point and it goes into, as I've described,
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into the right hemisphere here and which runs, of course, the left hand and by the decussation and the left hand goes up and finds from these objects here screened from view the nut amongst all the other objects and this you can do with any variety of common nouns that you'd like for objects.
14:00
You can flash here and the subject will go out and a hundred percent will get it right and not only knows that this left, this right hemisphere working the left hand can not only get the right object but can demonstrate its use. It can put the nut onto a bolt if there's one there and all that sort of thing. Yet, the subject, the speaking subject doesn't know anything
14:21
as shown by the query. The remarkable thing about this is... Oh, you could do it also if you put a picture of an object here like a key or something, they can find it there and so on. You could do it for... But you can't do it for verbs. It's only for common nouns. If you flash onto the left field here, nod or wink or point or something like that,
14:44
some verb, no result. Only for names of common objects can there be an understanding by the right hemisphere of the signal and appropriate action. So this is remarkable. I don't need to tell you that if you put it on the right hemisphere
15:01
the subject performs as normal and knows what he's doing. They put it into the right visual field to the left hemisphere and the subject knows what is happening all the time. The remarkable thing about these experiments then is that the uniqueness and exclusiveness of the dominant hemisphere, this is the speech hemisphere, in giving the subject information
15:24
in being able to talk to you and know what's going on and in fact it is all the goings on in this hemisphere which gives you the whole expression and personality of the subject recognized by his relatives and friends as before and it's only what goes on in this hemisphere
15:42
that is in fact now behaving as the self of the subject in relationship to the self. What's going on in this hemisphere, the split from the left, the right hemisphere, the minor hemisphere, is all unknown to the subject and he will describe his left hand. I don't know this left hand.
16:00
It's no good to me. I can't do anything with it. It does things on its own like doing successfully retrievals and so on. The subject doesn't know how it happens and is embarrassed by the success often of the left hand which he knows nothing about and nor does he know anything about anything flashed onto the left visual field except in a vague way.
16:22
So here we have split the subject in a quite remarkable way and speech and consciousness go entirely with the left hemisphere. I should mention that in all cases so far split they have been left speakers speech in the left hemisphere. There's been no right speaking person so far treated
16:43
but one can assume that it would be symmetrical in that case. The unity of the conscious experience that we all have the mental singleness as Bermer calls it is preserved at the expense of losing all that goes on in the right hemisphere. This is another world completely unknown to the subject
17:04
what actions there but I hope to show you that this right hemisphere is a very clever hemisphere in all kinds of ways. It can read and retrieve as you see here and it can do in fact many other things even more significant. For example if you can put here not just a name of an object
17:23
but you can put for lighting fires printed out the left hand can go out and find a match or if you can put here measuring instrument it will find a ruler. In all kinds of ways it's clever and I'll give you other examples
17:41
if you put a dollar sign here and this is an American civilization you have to understand with a dollar sign is put here there are no dollar notes out there but the left hand goes out and searches around and comes up with a quarter instead a coin and this is a successful retrieval. Likewise if you put here
18:01
as a picture of a big wall clock there then the left hand there's no big wall clock here but the left hand will go out and eventually after searching everything and looking comes up with a child's toy wristlet watch. It's the nearest the left hand can do and you can see that the right hemisphere therefore
18:22
programming the left hand in the light of that information it's got is a quite intelligent and clever hemisphere but nothing of this is known to the subject. Now we'll go back next slide to the Sperry diagram. Here we have his diagram again that you've seen already
18:41
and here you can see Rick printed out here some of the programming that's done on the two sides that we've done the visual fields already and the right and left hands the left hemisphere here right visual field right hand also mostly right ear but for smell it's entirely the other way
19:02
the left nostril here and the right there that's uncrossed and then here is the main language center and also the calculation all kinds of arithmetical calculations can be done here here it's only very simple calculation such as for example two and seven the hand can find all these numbers
19:22
if you put two and seven up on the screen it can go and find a nine and get it successful in the left hand but nothing complicated no multiplication it doesn't understand or subtraction or division whereas of course the right hand and the flashes on the right visual field it is behaving rather normally
19:41
but not as well it's a bit deteriorated. So the point I now have is that what else can we show here there's everything that's in the left visual field there's nothing gets through to here and the answer is no that's too much of a claim if you for example put some
20:03
on the left visual field here you put a picture giving a very frightening look of a gun pointing at you or something the subject doesn't see that he knows nothing about it nothing has got through to his conscious left hemisphere but he gets all the symptoms of fear
20:22
and shaking and trembling and looking anxious but doesn't know he feels fearful but doesn't know why he feels fearful because the picture was never registered only it was only registered there another example is one of Sperry's more amusing pictures he put a picture of a nude here
20:41
a nude lady and this picture was not seen by the subject but the subject suddenly started to giggle and look, blush a bit it happened to be a lady who was looking at the picture she didn't know why she had no idea why she felt embarrassed and this went on for several minutes so something gets across that has got into here
21:00
and this we can take this the deeper centers say through the hypothalamus which is still able to communicate across the midline but this was quite crude information another thing is that if you put a painful stimulus on the finger on the left hand the subject will feel again discomfort consciously
21:21
but not know why or where or what is happening it just has a feeling of discomfort only this vague and crude information crosses and that can be explained by communication at the lower level you see the problem now is here is the left speaking hemisphere with all the consciousness of the subject
21:42
all of the self of the subject everything from the past that can be remembered and so on is performed by this hemisphere this hemisphere is now completely separated from the conscious subject except in this crude manner I just described now I have put up the hypothesis next slide
22:02
shown in this next diagram that here is a diagram now it's an information flow diagram I have you know this is not an anatomical diagram and it shows quite a number of things I think and all in fact of the results of Sperry is diagrammed here
22:20
we look at the central part here only for a start this we'll come to later here is in this diagram the left hemisphere here is the right hemisphere the dominant hemisphere so-called the minor hemisphere this is the speaking hemisphere and the one that gives consciousness to the subject and because of the decussation shown here
22:41
the right side of receptors comes up here for the most part and informs the dominant hemisphere of the right world and the right visual field and likewise for the left side to the minor hemisphere it is all shown here and the motor actions of the cortex decussate and come out here and work the right hand
23:00
from the dominant left hemisphere and vice versa here and normally here is the corpus callosum these two hemispheres are tremendously connected across 200 million fibers and the basic rate of firing at rest even might be 20 a second and that's 4 000 million impulses a second
23:21
are passing from one hemisphere to the other one way or the other way across here and so you can see that normally our two hemispheres are very adequately connected for every purpose you could imagine and likewise of course all parts of one hemisphere connected to other parts but this is just as efficient the separation of the brain into the anatomical separation to two hemispheres
23:42
is fully looked after by this immense commissure here now if you cut the commissure you find out as in these tests show that this speaking dominant hemisphere is the only one which gives the subject conscious experiences of any kind and it's the only one from which the subject
24:02
the conscious subject can program a hand murky's right hand do this or that as normal then it's done from this hemisphere this hemisphere has so far as the subject is concerned is completely inactive it cannot be operated at all or programmed at all by any willing of the subject
24:22
this is an experimental fact so my theory is that the conscious self was only in liaison with the dominant hemisphere normally there was nothing here the linking between the mind-brain problem is only for the left dominant hemisphere the speaking hemisphere
24:40
the ideational hemisphere and the arrows show you that this by the way is not meant to indicate that the conscious self is hovering above the brain somewhere or other this is information flow only and so here you have then the situation that everything coming into the right hemisphere comes through here the right side comes in here to the left hemisphere
25:03
is experienced worked up thought and actions can be programmed from here and speech can be operated from here in the linguistic areas and so on and this is the way that happens in these split-brain patients and what goes on here is unknown to them although it has a great deal of high level performance
25:23
more and more as we should come to talk about in a way it's got the status of an animal brain you can work on animals and you can get all kinds of reactions from them but you cannot know what kind of conscious self the animal had because it's got no way of communicating adequately with you
25:40
all you can say is you have to be agnostic about the conscious life of animals even your dog but it's the same here you have to be agnostic about the conscious life that may have been maybe in this minor hemisphere in these split-brain patients but normally you will understand that everything that goes on here all the intense performance and memory and skills and so on
26:04
which are coded here get immediately through here and through to here and so you realize them and the time across is only about a hundredth of a second to cross from any part of the minor hemisphere to the major hemisphere through this immense tract so normally we don't know this at all and without the splitting of the brain investigations
26:23
one would never have predicted such a thing but there it is it comes up now with this stark clarity and it is always the speaking hemisphere that gives you this consciousness it's linked entirely the speech and consciousness are linked together
26:42
we ought to go back now in view of this and look again at the speaking hemisphere what is this dominant hemisphere got specially related to this incredible communication where the brain-mind problem is really exposed what has it got next slide please
27:01
now here we go back to the hemispheres and there is the motor speech area of Broca this posterior speech area of Vanica and here is the arcuate fasciculus joining the two because in all linguistic experiences you have to think and understand what you're saying and then to say it you have to go here and trigger off the speaking machinery
27:22
as I'm trying to do now so this is the two hemispheres now it was always thought until recently that they were that in macroscopic view they were symmetrical the remarkable thing now is that it has been discovered
27:41
next slide that they're not if we take certain areas of the brain here is anyway you can see it here is the cerebral hemisphere here and here is the temporal lobe and this is the left one and the speech areas would be here and here and here is the right hemisphere with no speech areas
28:00
now if you look at the surface of the brain you see an anatomist will tell you that they're symmetrical you can't see any difference on the left and the right although there is the remarkable association of speech with this one and not with that one this turns out to be not true people haven't looked down and peered down opening up the fissure of sylvius
28:21
and looked at it from the top it's amazing that this has had to wait till now to be discovered although the Germans did report it in the early about 1908 and then it's forgotten but when you do that and you can do it by cutting here and cutting there taking the lid off the brain and now looking on top of this remaining part here
28:40
and then you get this remarkable result that the Wernicke area here on the left brain is quite asymmetrical in most cases with the right there's only that little piece there matching that piece there so we have a really extraordinary macroscopic crude observation here
29:00
to show that the speech area has a special part of the brain that isn't matched in the right hemisphere the dominant hemisphere here is got some special structure not matched on the right but it's not true always sometimes you get it like this with almost symmetry in the two sides I might mention that
29:20
in anthropoid apes they are always symmetrical so this was a remarkable thing it was also shown by Vada that this area here this is Geschwind in Boston and Vada shows that the Broca area is also if you look down in the fissure is also got this asymmetry
29:40
still more remarkable is the finding that this is already present in the five-month-old fetus that you have amazingly enough there in this very early stage of existence asymmetry already grown and that's what I want to make
30:01
the point is that you have the genetic information builds the brain and builds the speech areas in this very early stage ready for the speech that eventually will come you don't grow your area by speaking your area is genetically grown genetic instructions already in advance
30:21
and so it comes out I prophesy that in the near future one will be seeing other areas related to such a special performance as music and that we do know that music is associated in the musical sense with the right temporal lobe not with the left
30:40
it's matching language and that lesions and excision of the right temporal lobe destroys the musical sense of patience now this can't be tested in the Sperry cases it could be perhaps but not any of them seem to be any got any musical ability so you're testing almost nothing but this might be the case here here with these cases
31:00
where you have a speech area in the left you have a large equivalent area and the right which isn't a speech area but this could be the musical area and I would suggest possibly that we'll find with people with musical ability have already genetically built as here with speech so an area here specifically related and giving them that musical ability it is for them to realize this potentiality
31:22
when of course later in life just as it's for us to realize our own speaking ability some are people poor people then are born good speakers with good linguistic usage some with others and some with both this is I think the message that we'll get through from this it's all genetically coded and it's genetic instructions that builds brains
31:41
for these special performances now I want to go on to consider the story of the right hemisphere this minor hemisphere we've mentioned music already and I have a feeling you know I always had a feeling that it was somehow rather left out in the split brain patients because it was doing lots of things
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but it couldn't get across to give performance conscious performance what is this big right brain of ours doing it weighs as much as the left it's got a few little deficiencies often but otherwise what is this great right brain doing you can find out that it's very clever in all kinds of ways
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for example the next slide shows you next slide oh this is just another one to show the asymmetry the param temporarily on the left hemisphere here compared with the right there is though a hypertrophy here met two for one in the of another part of the temporal lobe this is in the center of the Wannakee area though
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and you can see how much larger it is there than there now the next slide please and here is an example to show you that the right hemisphere and the programming the left hand can do a quite considerable thing you can flash on here a list
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you've already told the subject so a list of names of common things like book and cup and dust and pen and so on and they so this is what they're going to get they're all trained for this of course in advance and then you flash on book here and the left hand can go out it's in the left visual field programmed from here
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and write even in script with the left hand quite a script not a copy of that but in ordinary writing script meanwhile the subject knows nothing about it knows that the hand is doing something and doesn't know and you ask him and he makes a guess like cup which is one of the words in the list but has no knowledge whatsoever
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of what is being done by the right hemisphere here with programming the left hand in other ways the right hemisphere does much better and if you are for example I'll show you I'll just draw here an ordinary cube can we have the lights please
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like that and this is shown to the patient with a split brain and with his left hand he can go and make a quite reasonable picture just like I can do now without any real trouble with his right hand
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he can't do that at all this is the conscious side seeing this knowing it's a cube in perspective and the right hand will go and do things like this and then put a line this way and then look at it and then put another one and then he's getting right now but then he puts the next one up there and then he finally puts another one there
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and then he gives up and then he starts again but the conscious subject in the split brain patient cannot do that it's got no abilities for geometrical drawing it doesn't understand the three-dimensional spatial pictures at all it's got no pictorial sense this is the conscious subject but the left can do it
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and the subject looking at his left hand doing this is filled with chagrin here is the unconscious movement he can't program he can't stop and yet the left hand can do it the right hand is doing this and then the left hand always watching wants to come up and fix the thing for the right hand
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unconsciously you have to hold the left hand back because if the left hand got there it would immediately see how to make this picture come out right and do this you see and get the thing right but the right hand can't do it it's a sign that this pictorial ability in the right hemisphere programming the left hand that the left hand doesn't have
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and there are many other things in this way so now we'll have the next slide and here you see Sperry and Levy have investigated this quite a lot and now put down the dominant hemisphere and the minor hemisphere and put a kind of list now of performances in the split-brain patients as disclosed
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it's quite remarkable this is a hundred percent liaison to consciousness there is nothing at all coming to the consciousness of the subject from all the goings-on in that brain that is a hundred percent clear this is verbal it's got the linguistic centers this is almost a non-verbal but can read nouns
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and simple phrases this is I've put this in because I think it hasn't been tested yet but from our other work we expect the minor hemisphere to be the musical one from all the lesion work and removal of the right temporal lobe losing all musical ability and this could match the verbal this is ideational linguistic ideas
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between expressed and thought and this is pictorial and pattern sense as you see there this subject has no idea of pictures and patterns and matching any pictures shown or doing anything with this conscious hemisphere dominant hemisphere this hemisphere is analytic taking things to pieces if you like
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this is synthetic this is Ferri's idea this is sequential and this is holistic and you've come to think of it this is something to do with music it's synthetic and holistic building things together out of the total detail of sounds that come and giving you a whole musical experience this is going on in your minor hemisphere and this is arithmetical and computer-like
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and this is geometrical and spatial so here we have now an extraordinary split in our brain performance and quite unpredicted until these experiments were done and what is it for? well, Ferri, I think, is on the right line that this is a evil evolved this way
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with separate functions for the two hemispheres they can each get on with their own job and then when they've done all the cooking up and integrating and coding and decoding then they confuse it of course through the corpus callosum and get it out into consciousness and this is the way we're normally working so we go back to our diagram again next slide
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oh, no, the next slide will show you next slide shows you another way of looking at the whole problem now this is the three worlds of Karl Popper which I list out here which we the world one is the world of physical objects and states the whole of biology including human brains all the operations of brains would be here
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and all the artifacts like books and so on the paper and ink and everything that we have here the whole of the cosmos materially here is the world of states of consciousness that I started off with with the two kinds of sensing outer sensing, inner sensing and the conscious self and here is knowledge in the objective sense
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which is all of coded culture all that is written in books in an artifact of all kinds and all of our theories whole of science is here the whole of literature is here the whole of music and philosophy and literature everything that man has made is there coded on objects here because which are in world one
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I think this is quite inclusive diagram all existence everything that exists and everything that is experienced is in this diagram we go back next slide to the diagram here and here is the world three that we've been talking about all that is coded in all forms
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from the whole history of mankind this is the story of culture and civilization created by man is what exists in world three and it's coded upon world one here which is of course the paper and ink of books and the materials of pictures and sculpture and all the rest of it would be the base for the information
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that is coded the ideas that are coded and normally of course we get this in by reading it it comes through receptors like this through and is put into one or the other hemisphere and it is all worked out there in regards to music it's mostly worked up here and then shot across for recognition there
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and when you want to do anything if you want to carry out any action in response to a situation if it's your right hand it's quite easy you just go through here to your motor areas and out to your right hand if it's your left hand if I want to do something I still can do it I can come out here cross through here and out the motor cortex to my left hand and everything that you can explain is in here
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and even the few uncrossed pathways that account for the odd findings of Sperry which he has used in this picture so this then is our diagram and how we think it relates to the whole of experience Sperry himself has ideas much like mine now
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we used to differ quite a lot and now my feeling is that he's coming closer to me he may think I'm coming closer to him but never mind in one of his latest publications he writes in the present scheme the author postulates that the conscious phenomena of subjective experience that's in world two do interact on the brain processes
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exerting an active causal influence in this view consciousness is conceived to have a directive role in determining the flow pattern of cerebral excitation so this is what it does here's the conscious having a flow pattern working upon he has a neural machinery of the brain but not everywhere not at all here only in special areas
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which I think are associated with linguistic and ideational abilities of our dominant hemisphere this gives of course big trouble for the psychoneuro identity hypothesis people I'm glad they're in trouble because they would have thought originally they postulated all activities in the cerebral cortex have also a conscious side to them
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that our own experience is the inner side and that the neural machinery operation is the outer side that can be seen by an observer now finally I come to the problems of how it all started immense and fundamental problems are involved in how the brain developed this
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how did speech come to the brain how did from the perm from the ape a million or so years ago from the primitive hominid how did we come to have this linguistic areas in the dominant hemisphere and all that flows from that these areas that you see macroscopically in those earlier pictures on the left side
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and which have not yet been looked at adequately with the electron microscope and not at all with physiological testing there is a future for you to study the linguistic areas because they must be very special areas in the cerebral cortex I'm sure at the EM level quite different they will have properties of a kind unmatched anywhere else
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this has yet to be discovered man came I think to develop to evolve in these last million years or so by forging linguistic communication of ever increasing precision from just cries and so on and calls he began to become descriptive and later on argumentative this subtlety grew
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and man gradually became a self-conscious being aware of his identity and his selfhood this was the immense change from the ape to man and it came I think through the evolution development of areas here related to the use of the brain now for memory
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for expression of experience for argument and so the group you can think of the importance of this for the tribal group in survival in hunting and in their own affairs and that was all very well they became much more efficient but at the same time they also when they realized their own self-existence with language
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becoming a person and a self they also realized that they were like other human beings and that they would die as they saw death in others they too would die and this terrible sense of death awareness and with that all the myths to explain the meaning of life and the end of life and this we're still living with this happened at least a hundred thousand years ago
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at that time man for the first time was having ceremonial burials of other dead men and these have been recognized as the first signs of this self-awareness came to man but all of this would be related to a highly developed linguistic abilities well this takes you on through all the times then with gradually increasing
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and this is the point that this became a self-catalyzing or cross-catalyzing thing the more men spoke and and discussed you see the more they became efficient it was the efficiency of the speaking led to the better performance of the man
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and gave very high survival value to those brains that had evolved with these abilities and so on and so on and this gradually through the few hundred thousand years amazingly fast gave you a modern brain modern man's brain with all of the potentialities that we now have when we're born
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already genetically programmed and coded there and built and this from this we developed the whole of our culture and civilization gradually man having this ability to think and do and perceive was able to evolve all of the imaginative side of performance which is the whole story of man's history
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man's culture and man's civilization and so this is the world we're born into now we're born into it with all of this done for us as it were we have the inheritors of this wonderful evolutionary period of man where man created himself by creating his culture it was a cross symbiosis
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cross catalysis and so we have now man confronted with the problems that he now has what is the meaning of it all why what is the sense and meaning of life of the self-conscious existence of ours does it have more meaning than that of being merely a clever animal why are we born
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what does it all stand for and how should we live and all the problems of morality and so on so these are the problems I don't talk about them now but these are the problems that are now I think sharpened up and made acute by this discovery of the way in which the brain works in relationship to the conscious self
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into this area here in particular thank you