The New Immunology
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09:44
Lecture/ConferenceMeeting/Interview
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Lecture/ConferenceMeeting/Interview
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Transcript: English(auto-generated)
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Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, the new immunology. The term, the new immunology, was first used by Sir Macfarlane Burnett to describe the immunology which has grown up in the last 10 years.
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The immunology of which the three central concepts are, first, the biology of self-recognition, second, the molecular basis of information transfer in biological systems, thirdly, and perhaps most important,
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the interpretation of the immunological response in terms of the population dynamics of lymphoid cells. But before describing the great revolutions of thought which have led to the inauguration of the new immunology, I must try to answer
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your unspoken question. What was the old immunology? The old immunology was, above all, an applied science which was regarded as a branch of bacteriology. The syllabus of immunology was part of the small print
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in the syllabus of bacteriology departments. From a theoretical standpoint, immunology was treated as coextensive with the actions and interactions of empirically defined entities called
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antigens and antibodies. The antibodies were thought to be of various different kinds. Agglutinins, which caused the aggregation of bacteria or red blood corpuscles, precipitins,
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which formed insoluble compounds with protein antigens, and lysins, which brought about the rupture of the cell membrane, and opsonins, which affected microorganisms in such a way
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as to make them vulnerable to the phagocytic action of polymorphs and macrophages. All these reagents were functionally empirically defined and were thought to be separate, each from the other.
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Biochemists used to laugh at immunology and immunologists and treat immunology as more of a hobby than a science. All this has changed very greatly now, and I proceed to describe the four great revolutions of thought which have led to the instatement of what
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Burnett called the new immunology. The first great advance was that which was made possible by the inventions and discoveries of Tiselius and Svedberg. By the use of electrophoresis, which Dr. Yalow has described,
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and ultracentrifugation, it became possible to characterize antibodies physiochemically. Antibodies are globulins. The class of globulins as a whole, which includes antibodies, is now called immunoglobulin.
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These discoveries were followed very soon by those of Landsteiner and Horowitz, who showed that only part of a foreign, that is a non-self molecule, excites an immune response. The determinant group only is responsible for exciting
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the immune response. To each determinant group that corresponds one antibody. If, as Horowitz showed, a molecule carried two determinant groups, then two antibodies corresponding to them were formed.
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The specificity of immune reactions, which was the principal study of Karl Landsteiner in the latter half of his life, that is to say the unique pairing, one to one, of antigen and antibody, was now explained by the exact matching of the molecular configurations
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of antigen and antibody. There was a complete abandonment of the distinction between agglutinins, precipitins, and lysins. Now we think of these entities as so many, not as different substances, but as so many
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different manifestations of the action of an antibody. All are interconvertible, one into the other. The work that originated in the techniques of Tiselius and Svedberg reached its peak in the research of Edelman and Porter, which has now given us
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a virtually complete understanding of the molecular structure of antibody. Chronologically, however, the next advance came from biologists. McFarland Burnett and Meduwa and his young friends saw the biology of self-recognition
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as a central concept of immunology. The study of transplantation showed that not all immunological reactions are manifestations of the action of antibodies. Immunological reactions proved to be of two different kinds.
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There are humoral reactions mediated through soluble immunoglobulins in the blood, mediated through antibodies. And there are cellular immune reactions in which the recognition of antigen and the reaction upon
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it are the work of lymphocytes, lymphocytes which James Gowans showed were long-lived and recirculating cells. Lymphoid cells are the agents of both forms of immunity. Both humoral and cellular immunity
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are mediated through the actions of lymphocytes. One great family is responsible for antibody formation, and these are called B cells. B is short for bursa, the bursa of fabricius of chickens, or its equivalent in mammals.
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On the other hand, another class of cells, the thymus-dependent cells, or T cells, are those which are responsible for cellular immunity. The discovery of tolerance by a joint theoretical and practical operation of McFarlane, Burnett, and as I say,
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myself and my friends, showed that organ transplantation between genetically different individuals was theoretically possible. This gave an important boost to morale, because until then, many people, particularly geneticists,
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because they are so much wiser than we are, had said that it would never be possible to transplant organs from one individual to another. But we were able to show that it could be done, and this gave a tremendous boost to surgeons and immunologists working on the transplantation problem.
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A recent development of transplantation biology, which is that upon which I am now working, is the recognition that some cancers arouse a defensive reaction similar to that of graft rejection. It is not exactly the same. Many disappointments have been caused by the assumption
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that tumor rejection and graft rejection are essentially identical processes. They are not identical, but they have a family likeness which may be enough for us to build upon. An innovation of principle, which
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illustrates the great fertility of the new immunology, is that which is embodied in network theory, which I shall spend just a moment explaining to you, because it is one of the newest things in the new immunology. In immunological reactions, organisms
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react to non-self substances, substances which are completely new to the reacting system. Suppose, then, an antigen is introduced into the body for the first time. Then the antibody which that antigen causes to be formed
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is itself a protein new to the body. And therefore, it should produce an antibody against itself, an anti-antibody. And the antibody formed against this antibody. Are you following me, my friend?
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The antibody formed against this antibody will in turn form another antibody, an anti-antibody. Jernes network theory envisages that immunological control is achieved through this network of interacting antibodies.
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A simple and brilliant idea, which is already the basis of attempts to diminish or to augment the immune response, and which is already beginning to put it within our power to do what all immunologists want above all else to do,
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to regulate the immune response, to boost it or to diminish it as the need arises. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that a very great lesson is to be learned from the history of immunology. And this is why I have spent so much time on it.
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Immunology today is in some ways the most successful or the most rapidly moving of the biomedical sciences. Its developments have led to recognition, interpretation, and in many cases, the cure or radical improvement
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of immunological deficiency diseases and other diseases caused by miscarriage of the immunological process, diseases which include myasthenia gravis, dermatomyositis, many forms of allergy, and also of autoimmune,
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that is of immunologically self-destructive diseases. The immunological deficiency diseases are caused by the failure of either cellular or humoral immunity or of both.
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In addition, the new immunology has made possible the transplantation of organs such as the kidney and will one day make possible the transplantation of lungs and hearts. People often want to know when will it be possible to transplant hearts and lungs.
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The answer is that they will inevitably come if the need for them is judged to be sufficiently great and if the competing demands on the limited resources of money for health care can be reconciled with the provision of heart transplantation and lung
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transplantation. There is no theoretical obstacle to the transplantation either. Need and money are the limiting factors. But perhaps the greatest possible benefaction of the new immunology lies in the interpretation of the natural defensive mechanism against malignant growth.
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This is still a matter for the future, though very few of us have any serious doubt that there is a natural defensive mechanism against malignant growth. The combination of improved immunological and microbiological techniques is rapidly
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leading to the extinction of such virus diseases as poliomyelitis and smallpox. Within the lifetime of most of the people present in this room, both these diseases will be abolished. And the genetic information contained in the viruses responsible for them
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will be lost unless it is preserved in museums erected for the purpose, which is because even in an age of nostalgia, this is carrying sentimentality too far, perhaps. But from the standpoint of the history of ideas,
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what has been especially remarkable about immunology is not its explosive growth today, but its snail-like progress between the discovery of complement by Borde in about 1900 and the great biophysical discoveries
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that led to the interpretation of the nature of antibodies. The reason, I believe, is this. Immunology grew up, as I said, as an applied science. Its only purpose was thought to be to provide ad hoc solutions of practical problems, particularly in the domain of microbiology.
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The new immunology was invented by zoologists, biochemists, biochemists, biophysicists, geneticists, and microbiologists. The motivation of their work was to achieve understanding of natural processes
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and not to solve pressing practical problems on an ad hoc basis. The greatest methodologist of science, Sir Francis Bacon, made a distinction between experiments of use, corresponding roughly to applied science, and experiments of light, experiments intended only
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and primarily to enlarge the understanding. Much of Bacon's writing is a plea for the prosecution of experiments of light, a plea for the advancement of learning. He would have been deeply shocked by the modern tendency
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to treat the financing of research as if research were a branch of the retail trade, as if a customer could order the results that he wanted and pay or support only those scientists who could or profess to be able to provide the answers.
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We need, of course, power over the environment to make the world a better place to live in. And we need understanding upon which our power over the environment is founded. For Bacon was the first person to teach what the history of immunology so clearly
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illustrates, that the power comes from the understanding. Thank you.