asked me to try to make some closing remarks, and there's, there are like three approaches to doing that, right? One is to do them the day before, because you've actually got time to reflect, but it's not with any information about what people talk about. Another is to do it the day after, which would be quite easy, but no one's going to stay

around for that. And the others try to make it up as you go along, so I'm going to do that. So I was thinking a little bit about today. The first thing for me today is I learned a lot. This is the third data site workshop, third data site summer meeting, and I think we are continuing to get some amazing quality of speakers. We're seeing

not just the same topics being brought up, but sometimes the same topics now being addressed in new ways with some real progress being made, and sometimes quite new topics. And one of the things that I, sort of from two steps back, struck me today is, actually I

think Scott had a lovely slide, which sort of showed, you know, checks, doing this, doing this, doing this, not doing this, not doing that. And three years ago, there were no checks. Now we're starting to check some things off, and sometimes it feels like, oh my God, there's this whole new set of things to do, but actually those

are being uncovered. Many of them were probably on the list three or four years ago, but we had to knock off those first things before we can really even start to think about the later ones. So I think there's quite a nice set of progress being made there. I'd like to really thank our keynote speaker this morning, Jonathan, is he still

in the room? He had to leave earlier. So that was, I think, a great reminder for us of the context in which we're working. We think about impact sometimes, quite narrowly, bibliometrics. Actually, there's a big world out there in which we're playing an interesting role. But that bibliometrics and the sort of thing

about data, citation, and counting them, that's super important, right? Without being able to find and cite and find data sets, you can't reuse it, and you can't magnify its impact. So it plays a really super important role. So that highlighted that for me. He also provided, I think, us with some new tools for

thinking about, a kind of framework for thinking about impact, which is something that I think data site, myself personally, I'll take that away and do some real thinking about that. I quite appreciated the insights that he brought to us there. Go back to that first paper session. You know, we've seen quite

a number of presentations. I'm just going to reflect on a couple of them. The first paper session, so Vishwas really turned me on to a set of work in biodiversity and that mainstreaming of data publication that I wasn't fully

aware of. So I really appreciate him having done that. And the talk about, you know, this pipeline of 50 to 70 papers, data papers, data publications that will be in key journals in the discipline by the end of the year is really exciting. The last summer meeting, we were hearing about the

founding of some data publications and data journals. This year, we're hearing about a pipeline of dozens and dozens of articles to be published in them. So that's actually a lovely bit of progress there. And I think he had some really strong, provocative thoughts about integrating data citation into impact metrics, various sorts of metrics that

we can take on board. Andrew, you know, gave a great overview, as he does, about how ANDS is helping, right? More researchers reuse more data more often. Great slogan. Really love it. And, you know, I'm glad if DataSite can

help in the part of how that happens with ANDS. And that lovely upcoming example about how DataSite search services can be used to support data related portals and part of their sort of data commons activities are really

cool. Efke Schmidt gave the final presentation in that session. And for me, there was the one graph that really stands out. That was the one that showed that 90% of authors want to put their data in, you know, an

institutional other appropriate archive. But only 10% of them do. And so that's a huge challenge to publishers, to research funders, to institutions, to libraries. How we solve that one, it will take a little time. DataSite has a little bit to say there, but that's really a fundamental gap in

infrastructure today. So, interesting challenge. Thanks for that. Also, the use of the data pyramid to help visualize where the energy and the effort goes, I thought was really helpful. And thanks, Leanne, I think, for

putting together the first session. Great. Second session, Matthew Willard from the UK Data Archive gave a really clear account of why we need to cite data. I think that was a lovely explanation to sort of put together with

Michael Wilson's talk following that, showed in different disciplines, different sorts of institutions or kind of different considerations there, which was quite striking as well. And Matthew also surprised, I think, many of us with his observation that 15% of the mature data sets that are deposited

with the UK Data Archive change in the first year. Many of us tend to think that that stuff, it's fixed, it's done, it's set. But even for a kind of very strongly curated archive like the UK Data Archive, they still have to deal with that change early on. And he showed a great account of the

workflows that you have to put in place and how you deal with putting DOIs and DOI assignment into your workflow for data citation. So really good practices there. And anybody have a copy of their lovely pamphlet?

Not forget the data citation, what you need to know. Really nice if people haven't had a chance to read it. It's nice, it's short, and it seems to be pretty good advice too. So thanks to Matthew for that. Michael in that session gave us kind of a cautionary tale on sharing

metadata, even not just sharing your data, and the need that was picked up in the last session about embargoes. So there was sort of a dose of the real world, I thought, in that talk. Sort of the sorts of things you have

to worry about, you know, giving food to the conspiracy, feeding the conspiracy theorists in some domains is actually quite a thing to worry about, and others less of one. And sometimes we think open is easy. Well, in some environments, open can be quite challenging. So a dose of cold

water, I guess, there. And then the last talk, Suniya, in that session, sort of, I found the inclusion of data tabs and citation into the INSPIRE framework fantastic. So really exciting and incredible stuff going on

at CERN there. And that emphasis, I think, also throughout that session, that some of the problems are technical, those are kind of the easy ones. And as we solve them, the social ones, the reputational issues, become even more prominent. I think, in some way, we couldn't have solved those first because you have to give people things that work before they really

come to the fore, but we'll be working on them harder over the coming years. So, and thanks, Jan, for putting that lovely session together. And the final session, Herbert put together, we had Scott, fantastic, really cool stuff. I love the stories that you're able to bring with you and

tell here. That's great. And the call to action that you had at the end, I found really compelling. And I hope that DataSite can help to solve some of those problems and take on some of those challenges that you raised for us.

Jean-Francois. Actually, quite, you know, that little bit, this sort of throwaway line about, oh, we've had our data online since the mid-1970s, or you can get the data from the mid-'70s online today. That's a big deal, and sometimes we don't highlight how important it is that

there are institutions like ILL or UK Data Archive and others that have been in the data of providing access and enabling reuse of that data for decades and decades. Occasionally, I mean, this isn't something that you were saying at all, but occasionally I think we feel it's, you know, we've

just invented this problem today. Actually, many institutions and organizations have been dealing with it for decades, and it's nice to see that DataSite, though, today has a role to play in this sort of large-scale research infrastructures. And I agree with Kevin's underlining of

the compelling chart there, that little table showing the reuse of facilities across the user community that's quite interesting. And then the last talk in the session by Susan about this proliferation of

standards is kind of an interesting challenge for us. I feel like it's like software you have to refactor every now and then and simplify your code base. I don't know whether we can do this successfully or not. So that's kind of a reminder of what we

were talking about. I think it shows a tremendous amount of progress in the last year, and it's really pleasing to me to see it. I think the last thing is just thanks. So thanks to Jonathan for our great keynote this morning.

Thanks to all the presenters. I think really good, high-quality talks, good slides, and people will be delighted, those who weren't here today, to be able to see them in the coming weeks. Thanks to the session chairs, partly because of your work at finding good speakers and making those sessions work in a coherent way, that it was so interesting. So that was Leanne, Jan,

Birgitte, and Robert. And thanks very much to our program chairs. So it's Leanne Coleman from the British Library, Jan Braza from DataSite and TIB, and Morgan Sampras from DTU.

And lastly, most important thing, this was a great venue. You guys did a fantastic job, and I'd really like to, so Morgan's, but also at, Tina was standing over, sitting over

there, she's left the room. Can she come back in, or is... Yeah, can we just bring her back in? So I just think you guys did a fantastic job, it's a beautiful facility, I haven't been here before, lovely conference room, and if she deserves being in here, we can give her

a round of applause as well. And thanks then to everybody here for coming today, and for participating so actively.

Okay, so yeah, so just a round of applause please for Tina, for Mika Elba, and the rest of the team at, good food, great organization, good bus, thanks very much.

And I hope I can see many of you at the next DataSite summer meeting as well. And with that, does somebody want to say a note about what's next?