Sharing scientific data: Astronomy as a case study for a change in paradigm

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Open data/open science is currently a hot topic. Astronomy has been at the forefront for the sharing of data. Françoise Genova explains how astronomical data resources have been networked and then integrated globally through the astronomical Virtual Observatory (VO). The VO aims at enabling seamless access to the wealth of available on-line resources through a framework of interoperability standards and of interoperable tools. The International Virtual Observatory Alliance was set up in 2002 to coordinate VO activities world-wide and to manage the standardisation process. This will be of interest to: -- data creators & managers as there are lessons learned from the Astronomy experience -- Librarians Data is available and used by the community in its daily research work. Lessons learnt in building the astronomical data infrastructure are contributed to the Research Data Alliance (RDA). Françoise Genova has extensive experience in managing astronomical data: -- director of the Strasbourg astronomical data centre CDS (1995 to 2015) -- one of the founding parents of the astronomical Virtual Observatory project -- coordinator of several European projects dealing with the European Virtual Observatory -- member of the High Level Expert Group on Scientific Data (European Commission) -- one author of "Riding the wave" report (2010) and of its follow-up "Data Harvest" -- member of WDS Scientific Committee (2009-2012) and CODATA Executive Committee (2010-2012). She currently leads the "Data Access, Discovery and Interoperability" Work Package of the European ASTERICS astronomy Cluster, which aims at optimizing the usage of the data from the astronomical large projects through the Virtual Observatory. She is an active member of the RDA, in particular as member of the RDA Technical Advisory Board, and of the RDA Europe projects. She will be a member of the Data Seal of Approval Board starting 1 January 2016.
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see so you I think it's simply of high-dimensional it so it gives a chance to write 2 of of application into 1 and pack aging too much ceases to from the user and I think I am not sure about to start they created the aging cancer date at which people get used to the thought that up and computational and the background of so people get that so it's not as from the date of its which but thinking we have another question seen now and add the discipline style in the wake of the success the song years had is this something magical about astronomy and is also think who will wear aging but the fact that people do so you shall but the 1 under the Liskov was important remember what you're gonna scope of chief years ago although I was 1 of which you will engines you need to find a good rule the world will show that for all the reasons and that if you are a few these would be broader than we do snowboarding in or order not you cannot a so I want quickly understand it because you have any questions so it is changed so we seeking to organize its so to say that I am in the door they tried to to shore some of the hormones but what refuse to to make it but this can have been I can give you an idea can give advice from and for the people and discuss with them and but there is no magic the so this slightly naughty I heard that 1 of the reasons that astronomers 2nd share that data is that is no commercial value the aging edentulous usually right you don't even know I rented them on the View Austin School and the fact that there is local Russian I bet means that we do what we now fall wasn't part was thinking so question asking about half the you know the conventions citing astronomy data making the point that this as false losses just sits stronghold for sharing data and sends doing it what about citing well I think that's 1 of the best days in Louisiana and from which is on the screen and a give sites I don't of paper of easier because his signed not with you alright but we 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actually quite painful they had to do a combination of text mining and searching and Ozal's apartment things work out which publications are associated with which data which is what we would be posted back up OK so the point is not what we do for its just about ballet hands but so it's 1 of the reasons we also consumed you always but still because without you I think it will be easy to find information and resolutions that's it that's it so we can use throughout work to enable 20 interest and to enable an excellent infrastructure to make the same patience and that is a little but the shows on complete your next door but it's not winning at energy out so they are not have now united by K so question about the underlying data at our in our database that paper points to make changes goes like chicories years or observations at the using that of easier make any particular obtained the handle is changing and the the question makes a DOI based out publication should not and as working inside the time and I am not sure that's the whole reason office said it was necessary to give us a hand AS false you might we are changing that not only be we actions and going about that so we have consumer that not coming from the communications which is we have wait for people to put their locations on the object saying this is a long and way that we were so fine arrows when we include other that so that we go and that that it was Cuba's don't home so he said you really want something which is as good as it was but so we do it it we select things in when given the story of a changes and I think region you I will discuss this to available and the and the other some things you never changes finishing rendered Stewart basin in there is an understanding of some of them do I which is a new article on Russian now so this is something which is to be discussed I know where it were shot at me when I say change that that and other incentives for the most we show that the other people material from the outside because they think something is here which examines watch the fee but well so this is a big discussion about looking cross-section but we all user we for a user to know too well but it Serbia pragmatism of the purines and is evaluated the mesh on so question about data disposal of astronomers routinely dispose of data will be keyed everything just let these long and the expectation of the outside or just yes I'm not sure about well so so that's that's the easy examples so we know that some instruments like the escape you can't giving as promises way I'm not sure I have think the question is talking about is having the greatest talking about once you decided this is a useful observation that part of the sky the lecture I would happens is that the list him for that you don't want to be an entity or but the agencies which the hurricane Liskov you know they have them only to keep that out and to make it available on the old file or have for a moment minister so no you actually still that these of this scope and his I'm I know full space that it was not part of you case said a beginning but now the archives nearly everywhere and open up its right so there where do long difficulties for instance all then in mission so our for our son his face in his 5th nations but they're not going to think it's worth it that got scared binding agents and distributed betting agency and all this sodium and they go back and ask for a question how do you keep the data the error even where in that has that and said all course I think I guess it's with obligation you know the word for publication but you don't change at the cage OK so in some cases we have consumer perched Reljic all programs room when when we find that kind of addition there can be you know seem that the bird at etched with the the big bearing now would that they saying this is wrong this is since the event is an hour so try to keep track of these things but the traditions stay as they are because it's related but that is the but we had I am a cisterna last question that's effect wanted and went out as use from the by the way is the process for allocating credits to you observable the archive and follow up on that idea procedures facilitating collaboration on new publications based on shared basis in the simplest is systolic and so I think it's him he would pocket fed parties you know when you use that back where it comes from from the ways that you did that that you know where it comes in so you're supposed to do horrible patterns know and there and so we say I have little no other so that when we send that that we did that on the you know we know where it is Sweden right comes from it's thought of it that you can use and when that when you have this piece for the with the you were here each fondness and leading to new original data by archaic and the officiating good relation I I think that's on publication based and show that I think this is top of Group which last 1 of the instruments in there is no true do much and it back to show that you always proof which allow you to access to that data which has in the archives of the that and system in that environment that that basis so it's just a vector that that's year and then manage I the the person ask the question about whether the underlying data will change was motivated by the problem of reproduce unknown like this where the immigration ground oops is which would distribute you know I'm just use swelling path I guess because it's very hard to reproduce observation you know that the solution is to you go in the course assumes information that the observations fields and you have economic so that I don't think we're going on for the injured some decisions to use cloud over the origin of America is found you fakery him that pretty dense was that we are managing this kind ground so that again I know what you should be at university what you'll be be able to have what was the starting burned the hope and science but not the past but so I suggest new science and the college is not what you should be kept but maybe we only use for a SATA the last comment in my question boxes think uses an excellent question and answer session of I would agree with that I your with question that you for the rest of his out to big through approaches have not had his makes me if you knew are around 1 and yesterday this theory really held every meeting cured residents up so that you for the excellent residence and he fell Sussin it's about science and funds for a lot of again upon IT and thank you