International Data Week - What Happened in Denver?

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This Webinar reports back on the International Data Week (Denver, USA, 11-17 September 2016) with a particular focus on the eighth Plenary of the Research Data Alliance (RDA), which took place from 15-17 September 2016 as part of International Data Week. The Plenary brings together more than 400 RDA members for a week of working together in groups to further international issues around data sharing. RDA members present newly released outputs and how existing outputs, e.g. from the Data Citation Working Group, have been adopted in other organisations. Speakers: Several Australian attendees present their impressions and take-away messages from the Plenary, highlighting individual sessions, new adoptable outputs created by RDA groups, and other aspects of interest to people interested in the RDA.
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welcome everybody to the end but now on international data week what happened in Denver and this is sort of a joint webinar Andrew Shaw and I my name's Stephanie quitas we'll be talking for part of the time that now we get perspectives from a variety of participants of the International Data weeks so this is a brief I one who just
give a brief introduction and overview of the International Data week and then we have eight people talking about specific aspects sessions outputs things that they're liked along the way in doing international data week okay to
give a little bit of context core data arm holds a conference which is called side adequan every two years and this conference has a research focus the research data lines as you may know or holds a plenary every six months and the current area was the experience we've been doing this for four years and the cannery events have a strong practice focus and are meant for the research data lines working interest groups to come together and advance their work on their on their goals deliverables and also to bring people together to set up new interests of working groups engaged ages for them so having those two things have been pretty much at the same time and gave an opportunity for the planets to align as I do put it this is the first time this has been tried and this resulted in international data week which had two days of side article on the Monday Tuesday a day in the middle called international data form and two and a half days of the research data lines penury at the end so the whole event went from pretty much Monday morning till Saturday afternoon and if you're involved in Coweta governments you were doing things on the Sunday before and there are even some color catered events on the Saturday so this was the intention of this was to bring international data career together and it also exhausted everybody I think I know that wasn't the main intention of the event I'm just
some members altogether international data week heads over a hundred 816 participants from 42 countries which made they attended some kind of international daddy would not necessarily all of it and so dad I only had about six hundred forty participants and the I do Henry H had 551 participants from 33 countries it was very good to see in our 21 Australians registered for the plenary the panner he had about just over 70 breakout sessions where the groups came together and did their work and personally I was extremely surprised to see that over 60 people attended the audio you come a session which happened to take place on thursday morning at quarter past seven so it was immensely impressed to see nearly 70 people in the room and that was that was really great okay I'll now
hand over to Andrew and so essentially all of those numbers at least of the ID a segment can be like regardless having increased from previous years so it's kind of consistent with the general growth trajectory for RBA as a whole the people attending idea the newcomers I mean this was an innovation that we introduced in plenary free and we've done ever since and this is clearly meeting a need one of the characteristics of RDA talk about themes in the minute point of characteristics is that the plenary moves around so it's held in different locations each six months and as a result it picks up lots of people in the country or the region that a team who've never gone before and and don't really have any good sense of what r da is and how it's different and so the ideation you come is this a great opportunity for those people to do to get a quick overview of what we're trying to do and some sense of how the cleaner itself is structured as also particularly pleased with the increase in the number of Australians which is great so the the themes of the event were very but there was some kind of column things that ran across them so so David Connor stephanie has said is much more like a conventional conference than our traditional papers not actual paper but there's publications that are associated with that people speak is short questions of clarification and this year they said even though the the committee is the committee for on data for science and technology and even though co data has traditionally had more of a policy focus this year they decided that they wanted to look at research data reconstruction I wanted to talk about issues of data sharing a particular focus on sexual data and a particular discipline emphasis on earth in space by the International garda forum was in the middle and it was intended as the sort of the overlap day between side at econo Nadia greenery and a number of the stories that came out of responsibilities of scientists scientists in quotes because was deliberately all research on to science and some of the data store is picked up the theme of sensitive data that's identical had already talked about and as you see in a little while some of the talks 70 and I like best were in that that kind of overlap area the only a plenary doesn't really have things the way a normal conference has seemed so normal conference will have themes to help people structure what they're putting under the call proposals are da planner ease typically a much more focused on doing stuff and so these were not explicit things that they were themes that ran across the two and a half days so the first thing was then all the increase in the mention in RDA this is an organization that's continuing to grow continuing to have people become interested in it the second theme was the theme of the impact that are here is heading through the results of its working group interest groups and the third theme was the adoption of RDA
and so to talk a bit about those here is
a list of adoptions that were featured at this particular plenary so the brokering government's working group had a series of recommendations for how you might construct connections between infrastructure components so that they go for a broker you have a series old one-to-one connections into the broker rather than having to come up with multiple point-to-point connections so that one's clearly got a very infrastructure builder focus the code a summer school working group is more focused on providing how you would provide researchers with skills in working with data using a train-the-trainer model explicitly targeting Africa generally no yeah the other middle-income countries burning at a particular local South Africa this year the publishing data services working group which is co-led by Adrian Burton had a its recommendations revolve around the thing called the scolex framework which is a framework for connecting together different infrastructure elements within the overall publishing data ecosystem the bio sharing registry produced a whole series of recommendations on how you might describe elements within the life sciences and the method of standards catalog is attempting to do the boil the ocean tasks of capturing all the metadata standards they can get their hands on in addition to those to our that set of outputs you notice those are all listed as WG on the slide these are working group outputs we have what we call supporting outputs from interest groups a very comprehensive set of principles on legal interoperability from that interest group and the 23 things material coming out of the libraries for research data interest group now translated into lots of languages I was very pleasing to see the astonishing success men's promotion of the twe three research data things in Australia being highlighted at that event in addition to
those outputs so the outputs are effectively here are things that you can pick up and use we had a whole series of talks at the plenary about what talks from groups who are actually adopting stuff and I'm not going to go through all of these in detail we have links at the end that will highlight when we get to that points to the videos if you're all interested in looking at how r da is making a difference in the activity of particular communities I strongly encourage you to go to the adoption stories section of the videos because there you've got people who aren't necessarily infrastructure builders talking about how they're using these outputs to improve either the support that they need to include disciplines or the actual work they do themselves for instance the data citation of rice genome data is a strong focus of the interest group in agricultural data at the moment so I rather than try and summarize those I would encourage you to go to those videos and have a look at those links maybe one comment John the diner citation working of recommendations have been adopted by quite a few of those adductors so that like if you're interested in dynamic data citation like we worth having a look at what's being done with those yeah and some of you may remember acerola gave a talk about that because she like must get use out of Australia and we we said great run before you just go off the plane here's the shower and now I'd like you to give a talk and the recording of that is available from the end Stevens yes of course thank you so so next to give you a sense of some of the activity that happened we then thought rather than just point you at the the websites for these three different events and say have fun we thought it might be useful to talk a little bit about some things that we liked so Stephanie and I will start with thing then we found of particular interest at the event and then we have perspectives for a number of other Australian attendees who will talk about what they liked so two things that I wanted to highlight the first was going to be a
birds of a feather session called mapping the landscape which was really bringing people together who are interested in the topic of how do we map out all of the different activities that happening in this area and get a sense of what's going on and this was something that a hyperactive Leslie I bought an organized and over the course of the week she kept bumping into people who said oh we're making the landscape activity as well and I look did you know those people are doing a mapping landscape activity and so the by Friday when that session was actually held if it actually turned into a mapping the landscape of mapping tivities so I was trying to get a sense of who are all of the other people who are trying to do mapping the landscapes in various ways and that for me was a real demonstration of two of the benefits of bringing two lots of data nerds together into one space the first is that you've got lots of people in one spot who you otherwise wouldn't normally see and I said in the past they've all of the research data lines did was hold meetings twice a year that would probably be in they would def alone without value and the second thing is that you bump into people and you have these serendipitous conversation so there's they didn't know a lot of it about a lot of these things I didn't know a lot of these things and so as a result of these serendipitous interactions she was able to make that decision much about the that group recognized yet we are all trying to solve similar problems and we should we need to try and do the Civil coordinated way and so this is going to be a birds of a better that's going to turn into an interest group an interest group in fact is already or the proto interest group were already starting to think about are there particular tasks that we could spin off as working group activities which is it might be precisely way the rdna process isn't it to work
um the other thing that I want to highlight was a whole session on building a disciplinary worldwide data infrastructure this was on the international guard for a name and so this was essentially a whole lot of groups reporting on how how do we do infrastructure in a discipline and what are the science and quotes drivers for it one of the lessons we've learned and this was very broad so you can see it's not just hard sciences it's linguistics and digital humanities and as a as a quick way to get a sense of how different disciplines defame that's a very good way of doing it I should also mention in this context the closing keynote for the International data form day by Christine borgman who spoke about some early research that her group has been doing essentially on the same thing we're looking at disciplinary differences around data sharing there are some huge differences around pay for sharing and I think it's it's valuable for us to not just to send the data sharing is the same for everybody we need to recognize this a lot nuance then Stephanie okay so um I'll talk a little
bit about two things that I liked one of which is because my background is in qualitative research and I've always been interested in how to share and when to share personal sensitive research data and I particularly like to talk in one of the side article and sessions on that by Neil Walker who talked about data anonymity and the fact that in many cases that an annuity actually makes data access harder because it looks like it works but it doesn't leave any broader kind of examples of how and why the an immunization does not work so for example he had one data set then he mentions where someone looked out to specific disease and aggregated data by country now in theory that would have been great but for example in France there was just one person to persons who actually came out of that data said one was Marilyn was female so he identification really didn't work in that case and that's something that I I've actually I find quite interesting the second thing i like is more a process kind of thing after having had several days of conference where someone stares at the front and talks and everyone in the back sits and listens long as they email when i find very refreshing was the interest group for archives and records professionals in Rea which for the second time in a row that I'm aware of actually set up in their breakout session of the breakout sessions so they make little breakout groups with specific topics and really brainstormed and work through the through the issues that they gave us to discuss and I found that very refreshing and a very much more interactive way and I felt I was contributing way more than in a discussion where you have 30 people in a room and you know one person says something in the other 29 are listening so I really enjoyed that and thought that was a very good way of doing this now we have a list of people that have
volunteered I have offered when asked to provide their perspectives ok so Malcolm multivariate e I guess other than the opportunity to network the one we're asked to think of something in particular one of the interest groups I've been involved with for about 18 months is the calls itself the long tail of research data interest group we were going to have a meeting at Denver so we decided just to give it some focus of your bus tabled a document 10 ways to support the long tail of research but it quickly became apparent that would miss the target completely so what the way the meeting agenda the interest group agenda was we tabled the document and had 10 2 minutes speakers to respond to the document and we had the likes of Christine Borgman met someone from mendeley and fig share we had a wreck from the opens European open science cloud it's a really wide variety of different senior representatives from different groups if you like and as we were they went through and gave their two minute response most were didn't like what we've written not there was anything wrong with the content but missed the target the end result was that we should be if we're targeting funders we should be thinking about the long tail of research data in terms of orphaned data rather than our perspective which is the long tail of research but I guess the key the interesting better found about the whole exercise was nine or ten people from a wide variety of international organisations talking for two minutes can come to a pretty quick conclusion about where we should be heading which is a very hard to do through an online interest group but also typically other conferences where you only get one or two of those people speaking you don't actually get them in a room to contribute to a 90 minute discussion on where to from here so i found that particularly valuable and i don't notice that in many other conferences where you get a lot of broad spectrum from all sides from institutions from vendors from government representatives from you know t people like Christine Boardman talking to a particular topic in a practical sense that was interesting um hey Aloha are you there thank you i'm
james over from Griffith University and
the Queensland cyber infrastructure foundation I was fortunate enough to also attend research their alliance on in Denver I actually kind of found it to be quite a organisation we're good method to our network but also to understand how a lot of the larger collaborative programs so the sustainability global sustainability goals the group of earth observations our code data outside data and our da actually um work together to actually promote and formulas best practice and standards and actually to get much greater awareness across this kind of landscape it was also quite a I sorry I also attended a workshop called the low an interest group called the virtual research environment science gateways and opportunities for developing a more coordinated approach to support interoperability across different systems this is of particular interest as it provided an international perspective on things that we classify here as virtual laboratories and how in Australia we have been doing what what is the challenges and lessons learned in an international context within that within that session there was a well those three speakers for speakers me included on but there was a speaker from Purdue University who was leading the Nano hub or hubzero initiative which has got about 1.4 million users at the moment and then it was also a person Demetrius that was leaving a research environment in the UK well it was really actually am the what was quite interesting is that I think Australia is actually quite organized actually in this approach within virtual laboratories in the infrastructure we approach but sustainability came up as a key issue and and and how do we actually kind of grow these kind of services and there was some similarities across those international context so there was the you know that the approach of expanding vertically quickly and to provide that proof of concept and also show value was a universally recognized you need to also you know always be justifying your existence and measuring your impact and then measuring impact is not just a is about users but it's about what they do with that and that could be research and government and also that a strong kind of method that that when you're approaching developing these environments is that really your starting a small enterprises such it's not just a program or a platform you need to think about learning and you need to think about teaching and how you actually integrate this with into career went into research practice particular note there from hubzero and nanotech was that they see uptake in learning for their research tools so in education first there's been no monthly before that actually comes into research despite having a research trip and agenda that's just quickly from my own perspective that the breadth of topics actually was quite bewildering you know anything from social to biodiversity to to health digital humanities and everything in between and it was a great now working again and a lot of people attended so thank you okay thanks so much change um yes it was a bit overwhelming I thinking for all of us select having nearly seven days of this was quite whatever well if he's possible to have too much Phaedra thanks very much um next I don't understant regresa if you hit I am here and yeah so I'm sure it is but I'm from a research essay in South Australia and just quite grateful to have power at the moment so I recently became the project lead for the Arias 1.6 coppicing community project so I attended the RDA plenary sort of in that context so I was particularly interested to sort of find out what the interest groups around the digital practices in history and ethnography and the archives and records professionals was sort of doing and and what was happening in those spaces and Stephanie I guess my experience was similar to yours and perhaps my favorite thing was attending that archives and records meeting just the sort of interactive nature of it and being able to sort of participate actively rather than sort of listening the participant so I mean I sort of broke off into a working group around skills and training for a sort of archive at digital skills and training for archive professionals and sort of able to share what some of our plans were in the in the RDS project and some other things that we want to achieve in the next phase of the project and really enjoyed the opportunity sort of like be actively engaged I also this is my first rd a plenary and sort of you look quite a newcomer to this space so I enjoyed the newcomers session and yeah I thought it was a very positive experience I learned a lot and I think what I really wanted to achieve was to sort of improve my understanding of the research data landscape and I think it did that I think moving forward I really want to see how the outcomes of the RDS project how they sort of pan out and how we can feed that back into the archival interest groups so yes I think you answer the opportunity okay thanks so much sir ok the next speaker would be Richard lines only the trains that government department on and I'm sure forget something it was jobs transport economy resources and something else Richard if you're there I've got your slide here we're from the Department of
Ag department of economic development jobs transport and resources so well done Stephanie it's a mouthful and we're part of the agricultural Victoria portfolio I just reiterate my ends for supporting us in attending the RBA I found the RDA and both Karen and I found the RDA very well organized it was an exceptionally well organized event it was also really heartening to see so many interest groups trying to grapple with some of the problems that we've been noticing in our closets if you like in our work practice in place and so the sort of pragmatic prac approach of conversations on a global scale was really something that was outstanding and so the thing that stood out to me was fit for my own particular point of view is that I attended a number of of the sessions including the archives one and I too found that really useful and across the sort of five or six areas that I focused on we began to be able to build a map of all of the various elements that we're having to grapple with in our work in relation to data management and so I've mapped that out there just through as a probably a couple of hours just of thinking and discussing this with a few purple and it is the case that our department actually touches almost all of those areas so we've got one of the most complex working dynamics that I've ever experienced in my working life and so we touch just about all of those elements in the matrix and so it was some and then we also observed the various activities around or the enabling fusions data management plans interoperability strategies and so on so to be able to put that all together and a bit of a a landscape was the most useful thing to me and we hope to work with a number of our stakeholders to actually create some web resources to link all of this to provide some and link to our da activities in all of those areas over the next six six or so months and we also talked into the meetings a very strong interest in archival and records management because of a particular tool that we've invested in the in the department and we were exceptionally pleased to notice that that tool seems to be you know well conceived and for what many of the people are grappling so we are very pleased to have that sort of feedback so I will stop there i think and just thank you once again to ends thanks imaxtree ships Karen Murphy all of the cotton if
you want to add something yes tific Andrew thanks again and just a CAD we should thanks to Anne's for the support to head over to the conference at was am certainly odd what's the best event I'd been to NY am professional time here at the department in in 10 years maybe selfishly because it's very much right in the the problems rich suburban grappling with and I was a little bit done concerned before we left you know who some of the you know that the world were in and going there with the quality of the speakers and presentations there that I'm it could have been a little bit over my head but I'm it was right down an alley and we've got so much from it so thanks very much yeah to ends for the support I just a really practical example you know obviously the newcomers for our da session was really available to go there and I think that was Stefan alive said there was more than 60 people at that session on 60 80 so it looks that the UH the RDA models growing there's a lot of new people there so basically being a newcomer and then participating in the events during the week and all the breakouts and Elvis obviously really excited to go along to things such as them in on emerging interest group in agile data curation which is a really a curation is a is a high priority capability area that we're focusing on in there in our area and I now we called the big long name but we also a branch division called agriculture Victoria so whilst we're representing the edge to our interests are in the agriculture sector but obviously list of that there will be spread further across the department so just probably I've got a lot of notes I've actually only just landed back in the office today I took a few days off since when I got back from from the US because Richard my extended our visit to to UM University of Illinois and placed dose tender so that was really valuable because what the lesson the learnings from Denver got supported and I guess furthered in in what we what we worked out in at the University in the context there so I'll have some time together more thoughts and put together our report and happy to share that with everyone but um as Richard said it really does align to the problems we've been grappling with the product that we've the tool that we've developed in the last few years which was very well received over there I'm happy can contribute that to the Australian landscape in whatever shape or form and sure we'll be doing that through ends but practical take home is around that the working groups and interest groups in agile data curation is emerging interest group which I've joined and then the working groups that reported on that is really relieved to see some at work that the commons and the fear principals have created so why go on too much on this Stephanie thanks for the giving us a chance to catch up thank you and maybe we can talk about um say if you wanted to present you're employed as a blog post or something like that we can cover again okay and I need to hire you it yes hi hi everyone I again and getting feedback I think it's better now no it's improved yes so thanks again to Anne's for contribution towards going to to the sessions in fact if it wasn't there I'm from turn eco informatics at the University of Adelaide and mainly work on the ecost portal and also this year data submission tool and we're basically on subsistence money so it was very important to visit and for me I guess in terms of what we do here I'm in the data sort of publishing realm and I guess my role is trying to merge or bring together publishing policies in a way that really reflect long-established science practice and I've been reading a lot about the code data recommendations and papers and that and also the RDA recommendation so it was absolutely fabulous to actually get there and see how these two groups work together collegially to sort of guide us in an international sphere in this area so that was really really important to participate in that I was kind of like a kid in a candy shop there are so many things that I could cook on to of interest but the one that really stood out for me and it was mentioned in Simon Cox's talk in the plenary but also is mentioning quite a few other sessions and this is the nation of trustworthiness of the data that is published openly in repositories and things like that and and how the recommendations that are coming through in terms of principles and guidelines through the RDA through the various working from the various working groups may well give some kind of basis for working out or identifying that levels of trustworthiness in terms of our infrastructure so that had huge implications for the kind of systems the infrastructure that turn has and and it really overflowed in a whole range of areas it came through in terms of ontology Zand and jen and act generalities you could have in ontology 'he's in terms of control vocabs it came through and there it also came through in this whole nation of reproducibility and the different like I hadn't realized there are three levels of reproducing or three types of reproducibility so that was absolutely fascinating going forward I guess from a turn perspective it'd be really great to be used to you some of our infrastructure as case studies for the next lot of working group activities particularly in the publishing data services and in that space we'd really like to be involved in that so and it's good to feel that you're not alone in thinking about these things that was really great thank you and also it the location the organization on was just brilliant it was a really well-run will run sort of week next to everyone thanks so much anita and yes thanks again to all our contributors or there are their insights so we do have a good
time for questions at this point we thought we should provide you with some information where you can go and look further so there are there are there was a cone active conference in terms of tweeting and the number of different hash hash tags hashed idw 2016 and hash hash rd a plenary for the plenary of end for those of you who look at the hash idw 2016 hashtag now and wondering why there are so many tweets about deafness it's because after the we were in our avenge their was international gift of sweet for 2016 and we're going a static collision but the archive that's listed all the screen there please don't try and memorize that it will be in the slides which will give a life decision on the ends of int age but that just captured the tweets for for these events the program's themselves online with links the presentations and so you go downward slides or the slides you can there's also videos for much of the material not however the breakout sessions for the actual research taillights plenary only for the sessions though I had me in the main room much of the work of RDA is you've heard already happens in working groups and interest groups as these were in eight parallel tracks something like that and so there is a video for those but there's certainly video from the main space and most of the groups that help the breakout sessions have material I learning from the program of from network pages yes and finally there's some blog posts that are being able gated together I currently sit down the code a tour at the moment all the code a little website but there's blog posts one whole range of people including RDA people that's simply being used as a point to pull them together so lots of
additional information for your google k if they want so can we say that Susanna
alright thank you yes stephanie has reminded me that too much RDA is barely enough to ruin hg and if you would like more information on rdio Stephanie I are running to box any research one is essentially on why you might want to use the research data reliance salt ticular data problem so you've heard already today for a number of people about how they got value out all the RBA experience and process in realizing other people tackling the same problems we're running a ball that will help you understand how you can get more involved in RDA in terms of building solutions and then the second off is focused on how you might adopt so those outputs that we talked it out start of this webinar so if you're interested in either of those they'll be on the research conference if you're coming today and bearing in mind that ra has produced quite a few more hard puts than the ones that were presented at this particular plenary because the periyar concessions only talk about outputs De La Hoya presented for the first so we're working groups finish and present outputs a disciplinary more where they are going to be finishing in the next six months that will be presenting their five percent and experiments adesso slowly we go yes oh and on the ID a web page website there's a page and their efforts and recommendations called all of the recommendations I think and there you'll find a list of probably over a dozen at this point okay so this is emma has anyone talked any questions in trench actually nope okay well so if no one has any questions this is your this is your last chance oh actually no one's come here you go what do you think of the priorities for any follow-up the follow-up to international days a week I guess the priority well I don't know if I can speak for ends as a whole I can certainly speak personally and I should explain that 70 and I we work for hands but in a sense we we were for our da as well semi bang literally works for ideas their director operations three days a week and I work in air quotes for ova as co-chair of the technical advisory board and so I suppose George I give your answer first then I'll get my answer it is ok so my answer would be really very much in line with the slide that's on the screen at the moment I would like to see more Australians using the RDA processes to solve a problem so more involvement in working groups of interest groups the fact that more people from Australia were coming to this event was great the positive stories that we've heard today we was also great I'd like to see more Australians involved in using our TA and not just in running it and then the second thing i guess i'd like to see if or announce perspective is more adoption of the outputs so so if you may have heard Responsys in the past talk about how Australia should be not trying to reinvent the wheel or timing erie searching for structure we should be adopting what's happening overseas RDA is a great place to go to look for things that you can adopt double citations 70 mentioned is just one example of that so more people involved in solving problems through da and more people involved in pickup outputs with you answer so more people in Australia getting benefits out of the research done alliances I guess how are we summarize that and part of why we are doing those birds and foundations and you research is because not everybody knows a lot about the research online zone we just want to make sure that more people have a chance of hearing about it and hearing what it can do for you really and how you can how you can help it as well so it can be a win-win situation and as the RDA director of operations I have strongly internal role so at the moment I'm actually trying to make sure that some of the processes within the research data lines what more smoothly so that was my sort of my priority following up from international data week which has nothing to do really with young ardd awkward reaching a safari a bit more always making sure that people actually can use the research data lines and Panik benefit from it by making sure the organization works with me seriously just an agreement you've not be a website collaboration oh my god the working group I joined by using OS f as in OSS could i oh so the OSF not I a few times I'm saying the question correctly OSS vallejo is a hosted platform for your search of collaboration you can think of it as being a little bit like a light form of a virtual laboratory although it's mostly focused on managing data rather than on integration with tools you could use it for some of the kind of collaborative activity that the RDA also supports but the intention of the research data lines website is basically to do two things the first is to provide information about what r da is and how its structured lot of dance outputs as stephanie is already identified but there's a second if you like once you once you log in as a registered i be a min but and anyone can become an ID a member for free once you log in and join particular groups each of those groups have their own space with mailing lists and wikis and fire repositories but they can use to manage their own processes and outputs and one of the reasons that some people decide to use the RDA system is simply it gives them all of that collaboration into the structure for free so i hope i answered well i think the question was maybe just to add one thing so as n reset the audio x that of course also has the hopes of just showing information on the ID a but it also we also have requests for comments open anomaly so that means on the only a website you can find documents that are currently under what we call community review and where we actively ask the community to provide comments and then for that purpose the ID a website is a central point to do so what is common to make something up Andrew said I think one of the priorities for other institutions in Australia is to participate more in the review of the outputs before they become outputs so they're published on the RDA website so I guess what we're looking for is feedback on whether well how practical their recommendations are and whether they can be adopted within your institution so even if it's a good comment or a negative comment constructive criticism it would useful because no comment doesn't give you a good direction whether it's a good recommendation or not so the more feedback about the outputs that are up for community review the better so I'd
like to see more Australian Australians involved with that process now that's a great point Malcolm I was taking a slightly parochial tab focus on things rather than thinking broadly more broadly I should emphasize the incredibly valuable wall with the organizational assembly members play in RDA because there are people who are working organizations that are going to be adopting the outputs so they're their role in the RDA processes is extremely important any other questions is out another one with this particular right please aft outputs it's that particular place for the draft outputs is that the question yes is there a particular page these draft Edwards anything ok there's the outputs page yes so there's on the one hand there's the outputs page which is under eliminations all outputs and recommendations slow that's a list of outputs the first set is endorsed outputs which means they're the ones they have already gone through the review process then we have recommendations currently being endorse or something like that what's actually called recommendation with our game doors but in process and they're the ones that we actually really like those comments on and we do highlight some of these in the request for comments box once the once the recommendations have been formally submitted to an email from consideration they end up and leave with crystal comments box and that's when we really really really want community comments and also comments from the organizational members that are presented by the organization assembly because what what we're trying to determine is whether these outputs are actually useful to anyone to add real people not just in theory of FIFRA purpose yes fit for purpose and also I'm yet adoptable with reasonable amount of effort so yeah so if you go to our d hyphen alliance not all right up at the top of the screen there's a the words recommendations and outputs and that will let you get you okay there's one more comment or question which says what has been discussed in Denver facilities for developing countries so I can point to a couple of things one was as I mentioned the idea summer school so it's got a particular focus on improving the proving the standard of education in data issues for searches from developing countries there was a keynote from one of the RDA council members cavers araka from Botswana talking not just about issues relating to Botswana but about data issues ranging across the whole of the African continent and the i guess the alpha the only other thing i'd point out is that although RDA is currently the RDA membership is is drawn primarily from western europe and the united states consciously working to expand it out and so we have a increasing number of members from south america and in fact at this election the current technical advisable election which is closing roofs in one of the candidates is from India so we are starting to broad and out the geographical base for a DA which from my point of view is extremely welcome and one of the adoption stories that was presented at the idea Henry was the one by rice they were working with people in the Philippine international rice research institutions and the leader of the interest group I agricultural documents from Brazil night Regina yes so the agricultural use the agricultural cluster of interest of working groups actually has a better to do bars where you reckon from spread yes so they become a daddy who's from India she's one of the tech candidates she's also have any more than the other cultural interest group for example so that I mean it's sort of natural that this is more than involved with from South America and Asia not so much effort I don't think no it's for you to comment okay we have another question which says code outer rd a research data science summer school will it happen in Australia if not why I have no idea i noe entered echo oh so this was something we've been talking with Simon from kidada and some pods and cute off' and just trying to get our head around what's the difference between what kidada offers as a summer school and what we offer already in australia and things like software carpentry i think we're looking at all the carpentry and some of the subcomponents the thing about the code data especially the one in trieste it's a three-week summer school and they did target a lot of a lot of the participants were funded from various sources from developing countries so i guess our last conversation around this topic with qcf is do do well people really turn up for a three-week conference in brisbane or Melbourne or is a better off offered in shorter modules and if they're in shorter modules where we already run software carpentry so what are the missing elements so definitely like the the curriculums open there are some some parts of the curriculum they offer that we have big gaps in or a special round visualization and probably some of the HPC machine learning stuff but I suspect the courses around australia online that are already meeting that need as well so probably to reiterate an earlier problem why we wouldn't want to reinvent the wheel where if there is some good programs already available so it's a matter of I guess trying to decide do we want a summer school or get more more managed or focused or get a coherent group of courses together under a banner if that makes sense but definitely the code out of sorry it was going to say dakota apical open curriculum especially if you can find the one at rest is quite interesting to have a look at the link where the materials being deposited into the slides as well and i will also also make the point that the developers of the curriculum for the site the RDA summer school were talking closely with data flanders about the links of the res based curriculum and i believe there's significant overlap between the residence curriculum the summer school curriculum so in a sense much of the material that was covered has already been offered in australia through the resumes vehicle ok we are we're over time so i think we might wrap it up there and thank you all for attending thanks thanks in particular to the australian attendees who provide their perspective on the event the slides
including those links will be available on the events a drill soon now and thanks for coming and enjoy the rest of you