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and the and the and I and um you'll hear a little bit about biohacking today this lecture is called Open Source estrogen and it'll tell you a little bit about uh the possibility in and do it yourself biohacking and extracting and detecting estrogen uh so it's do-it-yourself basically could probably due to your own kitchen so it's a lot of fun and this issue is relevant for many many people because today we want therapies are very normal and a lot of people even though there are not that many but problems in doing stuff don't get the therapies that they want as tho with open source estrogen we have a solution for a small part maybe for some of you that might actually change the world and how that works there will be explained by Maggie give me a warm welcome for please of the others who have a great talk thank you and it all and everyone here me 0 there yeah so bins for the introduction my name is mary magic and I'm born raised in Los Angeles and non bis Indiana and and and talk about estrogen biopolitics so to give you a brief introduction I an artist 1st and foremost but my methodology is in biohacking and that's for me to get on a familiarity with mine the images hormones so I'm also interested in the cultural discourse as well as body in gender politics so the the when we
talk about hormone biopolitics we must 1st ask how did we arrive at this black box fact that estrogen produces a female body and testosterone produces a male body because we didn't just discover hormones in some loss corner of the planet we ourselves called them into existence the in the late 18
hundreds there is this concept of organ of there this idea that if you just to see organs that as the 1 that you try to cure than yet date you would you tear that organ by ingesting it so there's a scientist in bronze a card that claim that if he ate the testicles of dogs and roosters and monkeys and this would rejuvenate him of old age and regain their I regained his vitality and masculinity he called it the medicine of the future that sounds familiar to any you in the room but back and there's no
way to visualize or verify that what they had isolated from these organs and purified was indeed as she gender testosterone so they had to do was rely on these bioassays so basically human and animal test subjects where for example are given by a story about Eugene's dynamic who was an Austrian scientist and had his lab in the Vienna amusement park and which would do is perform these gold that transplants so basically removed the testicles of ratsa roosters and then he would observe well now these Roger acting more feminine a more DOS Ireland less aggressive so it is that the testicle that contains the male testosterone so you can see from these studies that it's a sort of gender fiction that he's promoting that their their notion of gender is already inscribed into the going out into the chemicals in into the experiments so from these experiments came kind of the beginning of an industry where they would use these is there more again our concoctions like the extracts to rejuvenate men of old age to cure homosexuality and to basically fix women who were too tarty last and then were to feminine but the the and to
further understand how these somatic fictions became more entrenched and normalized we have to follow the funding this so pharmaceutical and chemical companies they saw huge profit in these molecules and they decided well there needs to be a race to see who can conquest these hormones isolated source it and market it to the masses the the marketing aspect was crucial for example the disease depression does not exist without the synthetic molecules Sara tone the same way that clinical masculinity does not exist without synthetic testosterone the somatic sections were used to to create diseases that would have a hormonal cure the initially the source
testicles and overreach from animals such as bowls cows and goats and even marginalized people like the poor disenfranchised and incarcerated but soon they moved on to urine because urine came in larger quantities thousands of women have there's you have the urine source and hospitals in fact logic or logical clinics not knowing that there contributing to big farmers research but after winning came horses which have to be continuously impregnated to produce the hormone rich urine these estrogens isolated from urine are conjugated estrogens mean that they're not putting for gender transition therapy but enough to treat symptoms of menopause such as hot flashes however since the 19 seventies recent research has shown that premarital we see on the slide has greatly increased breast and endometrial cancer in its users then the discovered by Apple
Sebesta all or D as it's a form of synthetic estrogen which actually came from the petrochemical industry not the farm industry the this was the dominant prescription for pregnant women to prevent miscarriage until they found a huge rise of cervical cancers in these women and also their daughters and granddaughters so this laughter really terrible legacy in the US and during its dominant usage between the forties and seventies then it was finally canceled and it's market now and of course I have to talk about the
pill which I like to call the American lifestyle drug so over 50 per cent of women in the US are prescribed on some kind of hormonal contraceptive pill the ends it you know we have to remember that this was something that feminists fought for in the 2nd wave feminism movements it was a symbol for reproductive freedom until they realize that the pill actually kills women it causes cancer pelvic inflammatory disease depression all kinds of other at or side effects that the same time you know if you are a woman born in the developing world ends they're wearing the women actually die from having too many complications from too many pregnancies and the pill actually prevents death so it really depends on the body that you're born into whether the pill saves lives are kills people by the way I think we can all agree that it's time for a non hormonal crunch and contraceptive method and we should wait around for big pharma to get to this with it and of course
when are ecologists began those things frogs during over his next to the testicles the media decided OK well let's blame the suburban housewives propene their birth control system subscriptions into the water supply and so they soon realize that what's causing these of gold that formations was actually coming from at using a really common pesticide used in the US in aggro industry the and a lot of different media also called or even sciences called these frogs transgender frogs and the fish also transgender fish which I have to say is of the wrong terminology because that's like referring to our chance friends that they are the result of some chemical mutations which is completely false it the and
PCB are another highly persistent and pervasive molecule from the petrochemical industry the and when they invented it actually called it the Magic Flute because it increases the stability and longevity of everything that it touched so PCD is I think are 1 of the most pervasive chemicals that we have an existence and after the 19 29 of economic collapse actually Monsanto took over its production so we think of Monsanto now as an admiral agricultural industry but actually it started out as a petrochemical company end if you are familiar with the effects of dioxide Eurasian orange PCPs have the have basically the same effects
when and this is the last 1 we have the very popular BPA and this molecule was also coming from petrochemical but they decided that before D as as they wanted to try it on women because they knew that it had estrogenic effects so since 19 thirties the industry has known this is this has estrogenic effects yeah it's 1 of the most commonly used plasticizers In the packaging industry in the food impacting industry the and so you might notice that a lot of your water bottle say BPA-free on them noun well they might still contain bp s which is just another our version of BPA which is just as toxic but the companies are not legally obliged to label it containing bps the
so but despite all these warnings about the toxic impacts of these endocrine disruptors all of these you know estrogens these hormonally active compounds in the environment the lobbying of petrochemical agricultural and pharmaceutical industries continues to influence the regulatory institutions in favor of the QAPlus interests I see this as it kind of molecular colonization on our bodies and bodies of non-human species which also forces us to rethink our definitions of normal and natural our relationships with our bodies we divide the environment and also how we can face are shared species vulnerability in this all toxic alien becoming the because to
stated bluntly these molecules have no respect for jurisdiction nor concern for human and environmental health and mean why would they they go wherever they please where where they're released and more often than not these places are concentrated in marginalized disenfranchised and indigenous communities they are several cases of toxic dumping uh happening in the US mostly on Native American reservations and so on the so when we talk about the the nonhuman in embracing the nonhuman we also can't forget those bodies which we already treat as nonhuman who i mean the live very precarious slides so the effects of these endocrine-disrupting molecules they range from obesity to lower IQ too early onset puberty cervical and testicular cancer is as it's important to note that it's not just the reproductive effects that the reproductive organs that are affected by these molecules we have just general I mean these molecules are affecting our entire hormonal stability that goes from the neurological centers and to normal metabolism of the body however it's it is the reproductive effects that we tend to focus on it specially in public discourse and I'm going to go back to that a little bit later the so what can we do about
this so I started to work on this project called open source estrogen about two-and-a-half 3 years ago and it's a collaborative investigative projects seeking to demonstrate the various entrenched ways that hormones have colonized every aspect of our being the project is open source in the sense that the protocol is generated are shareable hackable and constantly improved on the and another 2 synsets open source is the fact that the estrogen is all around us it's pervasive it's ubiquitous and in a sense it's available for us to have and to collaborate with and you re Figure new subjectivities the the
project takes a lot of influence from a tactical our collective Critical Art Ensemble and the concept of fuzzy biological sabotage the idea that organisms could be had been reversed the manipulated and used for social resistance the project is also heavily influenced by Sabbah feminist collective sub rosa In this picture their performance hosting the world's 1st woman friendly Expo on advanced reproductive technologies a T the it was a way to perform science publicly mimicking the language and rhetoric used to catalyze and commodify female marginalize bodies the the so open-source
estrogen we started with a really simple question which was what if it was possible to make estrogen in the kitchen this question opened up more questions as to whose bodies are currently affected who's currently controlling its distribution and whether the ethics behind self administering self synthesize hormones that having Gondor FDA approval for clinical trials what are people willing to risk to gain greater body autonomy
we don't want to add underestimated the power of speculative fiction using the format of the fiction of cooking show which is called housewives making drugs are not only are we demystifying the scientific protocols hacking estrogen India DIY kitchen setting is also presented as a practice of decolonization a way to unravel how bodies can be managed to disciplined and pathologize and then say well here's a way we can engineer our own former resistance sharing estrogen recipes in the kitchen this is a 10 minute
shown housewives making drugs sign to amazing trans performers jade Phoenix J. renegade the now I want to switch gears and tell you more about how I got to these recipes in the 1st place to get into that of biohacking the or what I like to call
estrogen geeking freaks science the so the 1st protocol that I started exploring was a low cost way to detect estrogen so I a started exploring transgenic yeast biosensors the by the way the text in the yellow is a shout out to all the people I worked with because estrogen geeking freak sciences not something you can there should do by yourself it's more fun with friends so with the least I've inserted plus a plasmid containing human estrogen receptor and this allows the user to produce a yellow molecule when it comes in contact with any kind of echogenic molecule so any molecule that binds to the estrogen receptor and keep in mind this is a receptor that's highly conserved among all animal taxes error has over super along the ancient evolutionary history this estrogen receptor and so that's why we have 2 frogs and fish the microbes in everything is being affected by these is you know molecules the so these these biosensors the action of amazingly high sensitivity compared to traditional arbitrary machines like GC MS or LC-MS however these are machines that no citizen really has like any access to the Houston a cost tens of thousands of dollars and more port importantly the yeast biosensors are able to detect compounds that we don't even know estrogenic yet the the next
protocol is the DIY solid-phase extraction so this is a method I like to use for large bodies of of water like rivers or oceans or even tap water and have also used I attested holy water from churches and so basically that the molecules are existing in very dilute concentrations so you wait to concentrate that and this process is using a peristaltic pump system and when you combine the system with the use biosensors then it's a process I like to call river crime ecology is you're basically diagnosing the river for any plugins are toxic compounds in the same way that you would diagnose your own body the
next 1 is uh protocol I like to use for urine and so this is for extracting the estrogens that we P out and keep in mind these estrogens are their conjugated which means that they're in an inactive form ends so it's not something I would recommend for any kind of gender transition but if you go back to the story of pre Maranon the present horses it is a compound that they used to use for menopausal symptoms the so the protocols using household materials like silica gel cigarette filters and methanol kind of household ends up it also uses a glass bottle hack so you cut the glass bottle and that substitutes for the expensive laboratory columns and
lastly I've been exploring a new trajectory with artists right hand on a species of white rot fungus which are able to break down toxicities as a form of bioremediation the fungus also has incredible medicinal anticancer and tighter Moses properties which if you're a person on HRT or birth control pills the fungus would really help with that efforts pretty interesting so
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collaborate but the collective called the aliens in green which is an investigative laboratory and tactical group which strides which tries to uh reveal the alien agents of adipogenic is you know power in other words uh toxic you estrogens we we use media communication open science philosophy and specular fiction in order to generate critical discourse and interventions in the public sphere I workshops tends last 6 hours long because they're so intensive and highly orchestrated the we actually abductor participants into a performance without them even knowing it
the 1 of the discursive exercises we tried to do is to take all the effects of endocrine disrupters like obesity autism low sperm counts and we ask participants to place them into 1 of 2 categories is a biological suffering or idealogical suffering meaning like you actually experienced real pain from these effects is toxic effects or is it more a result of societies binary header norms of system that is a disciplining you are acting as a form of biosurveillance on you on your body
another project that I've been working on this is where my my practices going into more performance territory is called the molecular clearing agency which is alive British Patera participatory performance involving worshipping you're in in using these oxygen masks that are filled with hormones for you to inhale the and also an audio-visual projection this is a fictional service offered by unknown and known molecular agents that have colonized the planet the agency gently guides participants through the process of querying as there are as their as to offer up their own urine for the hormones to be extracted so in the in the picture there and they're inhaling these hormones and those hormones are actually extracted from previous participants so I've created this kind of like hormone colonizing cycle each time I do this performance and we you worship the year-end because it's a symbol of dis disobedient liquid it contains not just the natural estrogens that we make in our bodies they also tells us how much exposure we've had to Zeno estrogens so I mean it's a it's a super scary and paralyzing topic in this idea that were all of basically mutating but ended this agencies trying to encourage that this is a collective mutagenesis that were doing this all together and we can embrace the horror together so this is a three-step
process for a living in increasingly clear world so the 1st step is toxicities you live in an alien landscape filled with them polluted by petrochemical agricultural and pharmaceutical industries step 2 semiosis you're already alien with plastic senior year in in your blood in your children are known as the 3 subjectivities you want to be more alien than you already are is what is it
actually means to be alien or to be clear or to be outside with socially or medically accepted so I found his paper it's actually scientific publication where they hybridize 2 species of fish and the result was a hermaphrodite which they called a hopeful monster which is really interesting terminology for scientific paper but also made me think well why can't we also be considered hopeful monsters the
there is without a doubt like not only our physical bodies being disrupted but also are binary notions of male and female of binary genders and so when we talk about difference and disruption and disobedience that's not also forget those bodies the social that society already calls disobedient at format for their bodies intersex bodies and their bodies are often medicalized to fit our notions of normal and natural and heteronormative so like their bodies and also trans bodies that performing socially sanctioned had a lot of heteronormativity they live precarious lives and at the same time the argue that we are we all have an endocrine disruptor body meant if define PCPs in the deepest parts of the ocean in the Marianas Trench defined PCPs so there's no body out there there hasn't been exposed by these toxic pseudomolecules we propose a
study done in Sweden linking the on the exposure of plastics in pregnant women to the distance between a innocent genitals and actually getting smaller and smaller and on so you can see there were all being chemically altered physiologically altered about 2 meters and bring this up this is kind of interesting case where it seems to be more of a cosmetic ochre alteration is there is no negative health effect of having a shorter 8 in a gentle distance may be of more a transfer of bacteria but actually has a really beautiful symbolism because like the genitals that which are the most gender part of the body it's like they're trying to reach the most non gendered universe apart the body which is dangerously everyone had an but the but
anyway on but I think there is way too much emphasis being put on the genitals to determine sex and gender right we know so much from evidence that this chart that you see on the screen is a social semantic fiction that discriminates against non-binary bodies and we also have to pay
attention when we talk about endocrine disruption Ardys toxic 16 a molecule's it's so easy to slip back into transphobia homophobic even xenophobic discourse I came across this blog post that said well I don't think it's right that the government is putting birth control pills in the water supply it's making all the men gay and we need both male and female as to reproduce the human species and sigh well I think there is no more urgent reasons and they should be angry that there is all these of pollutants in the water supply sigh from turning Monday the so I just wanna
return back to plastics and tease apart the irony of it on there's a really great art a writer named Heather Davies and she writes about how we were living in this class sphere this plasticine ends In a way the plastic molecules are are progeny they're like our children they going to live long past you know after we die there were into exists and persists ends create this kind of I geologic indigestion in the planet and so there's no way to escape this all-pervasive toxicity and its clearing potential and so what does that mean for people who identifies clear now I mean are you are we saying that are clear can have no future in this toxic landscape
and I like to think about our bodies as
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relations with molecules with
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semi sphere I mean that all these
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communicate so all other living beings on
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ourselves is can we reframe
toxicity without reinforcing a
standard of purity with that rather
than rather than affirming the cultural
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toxic toxic shame to toxic
embrace we create discourse
beckon emancipate us it is what's at
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body sovereignty how bodies can be
stolen you hormonal technologies
and residues of countless industrialization so I'm going to end
here on a 6 point plan written under the open source at xin projects the actually modeled after the transgenic culture production plan of Critical Art Ensemble I'm not going to read all this but I just want emphasize the last point number 6 consider the mica performativity of hormones as an Asian show power of not only molecular colonization but of molecular collaboration this these molecules they they lived with us among us in US between us and say they collaborate on they collaborate with us to produce we are and on we have to consider the word disruption as well as destruction to what's exactly this option to our heteronormative structures that's a good thing it's making us reevaluate our notions of male and female categories so yeah that's it mn thank you and thank you to all the of so we have a lot of time left I will do some Q and a so if you have questions we have microphones and the whole ball just line up behind the mikes and you'll go through and if we will just start with 2 I think if we talk I was wondering what if you could give more details on this topic all the fungi that you that you made uh helping with nature to you because if it is very relevant to many in the hands of the people and the I was planning in general and the the whole project that you explained from Caesar's seem to focus more on like this global kind of effects that I was learning more about you know like the personal issues that this would help with assure that they and the project exploring fungi it's only recently actually ends we just started exploring its its properties and we found out we found all the scientific papers that it was using that the fungus to make TD and to combine that with cervical cancer therapy that's not there the and then the and also prevents against thrombosis which is you know this of this blood clot that happens very frequently and you could be very serious to your house and so on and we realize that these are also the symptoms that are common you know if you're taking like birth control pills you're on some kind of a charity so all of these papers that are coming from Korea and Japan and they are it's basically like and they it's basically making T in never then the redescribing the papers like really scientific and boil at this temperature below blob you're just use soaking in the hot water to extract these on they called they don't like hands something like that but these are the molecules that that get is shattered into the water and they're actually preventing the give anti-cancer properties so wanna dimensions is caused sub-phylum con union of you can remember that but it's our 1 of the most common mushrooms in the world that's why it's called the future file comune and I'm another motion that we investigated with oyster mushrooms if had the the 1 please I think you know you talk to him to question this man once and I tell you about and a node in the discourse of a this will socket and constructors and like plastics of any ecological toxic topics overall at the evaluated highly when someone gives out it's not only discussed but also options are given like you have 10 years new project educating people about it and in hiring and T. test uh theory environment for that and that is the to me that it would be challenging to to him and that the term of toxic waste is used we now have to say on not sure yet how I'm standing an and I would ask why did you ferret um quite choose to the uh the the educate people about whether or and then trying so that they can care for themselves rather then and trying to discover that this this and still practiced in book I think that there I'm encouraging both both things both practices and mean I'm disrupting the industrial OK well the of I am not going to 2 lines it's easy to disrupt companies like Monsanto it's really difficult and so my practices is hyperlocal which means that you know I I a try to effect change in the in the people who join my workshops and so it's and I think that having awareness are having a a consciousness about I'm all the plugins in in the water supply and I'm even if that ends up just affecting your consumer choices but you know the skin this can really help to on b to increase the amount of autonomy they have in your own body and in your own environment so on the and thank you for bringing up this this kind of tension about that the phrase toxic embrace because I also have a lot of our I'm still trying to to reconcile with that means because on I think for a lot of people it's it's very very paralyzing to realize that how how polluted our environment is and how we can escape this and so when we go from here like how do we move beyond now knowing these scandalous levels of estrogen in the water supply I mean In a and and make and I'm exploring different kinds of discourses and 1 of them is like well why don't we look at these molecules like our progeny like our children and be responsible for them like they are our children and so on and I guess when I say toxic embrace them actually I mean like embraced the query like embraced the other embraced bodies of difference because they exist already and they're going continue to increase because we see all these effects of these endocrine disruptors we're gonna see a lot of weird mutated being slot queer beings yeah the but a 2nd and and I had to but I was reminded of hope Seattle and I'm interested would you also do this kind of project for testosterone and the thing that some of them 1st thought about it and I am still the estrogen obsessed reign of the on yeah because there's definitely there there aren't as many uses for testosterone as they are for estrogen I mean if we if we compare actually and testosterone and what kind of bio capital is made know estrogen is deftly the lead and the estrogen and progesterone on they are the highly most highly manufacturers the compounds in the world actually that's how much money and profit these companies are making but yet testosterone is definitely and interest yes thank you but and microphone for please and also looking at to add estrogen fellators the base how to remove estrogen from the environment he leaders yes yes OK I will yeah that's what the the fungus project is kind of exploring because on what's interesting is you know they have a the date the naturally occurring enzymes that the mushrooms are producing because they produce the same enzymes to basically on each each trees that are fighting and dying so these same um enzymes are breaking down these plastic molecules because they have these similar on basically like these multi carbon chains so this fungus can actually do the same job and so that stood and aside from the and and extraction I mean it's it's very difficult to extract sling purify all the all the water that exists it's more of a way to combine that with these
biosensors I would say the fungus trajectory is the closest to discover bioremediation the the comment if anyone is working with like detecting extracting bioremediation of endocrine-disrupting molecules like please come talk to me and of my phone 3 please and and the receive any potential danger with this type of biohacking example of person doing itself experiment gone wrong but perhaps they try something like this instead of traditional medicine and up hurting themselves and then especially in the position of the teacher do you mitigate this risk if you see that's and age an issue that we thought about a lot because I'm when we were researching on these protocols in our on actually the 1st protocol that I wanted that I wanted to do was around to modify used to basically produce estrogen to be these like estrogen synthesis factories ends on I was consulting weight scientists for 3 months or so and they're all telling me like married this project is impossible you need like a team of scientists and is basically if you look at the metabolic pathway of producing estrogen from cholesterol you have to knock in 5 or 6 genes into these to get it to produce estrogen which is really really difficult genetic engineering and so so I forgot what the question was only O'Leary JSI and so but then know but we deftly adult about well if we did create this this protocol and if we did like if we did distribute he's yeast you know what kind of dangers will arise ends the I have to say I'm a I'm not a super expert in trans hormone therapy or anything like that but from what I know it's and hormones are so potent and so sensitive to every individual and so do you really need to have a lot of knowledge about your own blood work and you know like a by body chemistry to know like what kind of dosage to give yourself you that that's where that's where trans people when they go to Dr. they have to do all these tests to figure out the right dosage and even the doctor still get it wrong you know because a lot doctors are not actually knowledgeable and transition there please so are the the yeah it's a huge risk it's it's and it's an ethical risk ends up a deafening 0 people who would take that risk to live in the body that they want the the so the internet have the question this is the terminology question and the Internet is asking why is referring to the with sexual orientation as strand and no wrong how does that compare to of the of got to the definitions we use for you species but I think it's because it's creative connotation that chance bodies are somehow chemically mutated which is I think kind of derogatory way to to look at it I mean I think that maybe the term intersects a a multi sex would be a better term by you know I I had this this feeling that sciences Justin have do their terminology to to know what to call these frogs and fish when they saw like you they would open up these frauds and find like 5 over his next 2 6 testicles and they just had no idea what was going on there like 0 the trends and him in a we have to like we have to be aware of the terminology that we're using on a it you know does it really thin line between like how we of non-human species to how we receive our own the people that live among us you know so some of the answers a question um and we just got a 2nd question and the 2nd question is have you done any work to map the restrictions people have measure was the whole measurement technique the what's the whole measuring techniques I don't know that just as than but that's kind of interesting I would like to research more into that from my quantities and by the way and so on 1 of the major obstacles so fast means the spaces is medical gatekeeping and doctors often misunderstandings the possible side effects and and failing to describe I and but often it's used to misconceptions that I'm but about the effects of the different types of if if if example but that are not supported by medical evidence so so it is specific example of how many doctors think about diving and as fusion will increased risk of breast cancer f of you would have a family history of breast cancer there's actually no evidence of that fall by 0 . Easton's and without Castro and so that they have these misconceptions I'm the do you think that so that a lot of you thought was worse on those plant in a way that the best and when in fact from the 24 I have is that the perception of risk is too hot and I see well I'm we're describing it is bio identical is ends and eventually come across a lot of research saying like that the on much safer than the synthetic estrogens and progesterone they're being prescribed on those are the ones that yeah I were causing a lot of help to health effects and will be will say like 0 but you know that our grandmother's generation when they're taking the pills it was like 3 times the dosage and that's why on these effects were happening and now it's like much lower in concentration but I mean again it depends on your body like we all know but it is a plant genome make is that we don't know whose bodies were in the clinical trials when they were testing each compound each drug or whatever it i remember when I was in high school my mom told me go on birth control pills and then I and then 1 day she went to Dr. pitch getting hot flashes and the doctor gave her the same exact pills that I was taking for birth control and so it made me think like these doctors I do they know what they're prescribing to people maybe there are no yeah it's like ends In that makes you think well on which to rely too heavily on on medical practitioners and the week we should be able to have our own a ton of me to know our bodies and to know what's right for our bodies and rebates yeah it's everyone's best friends that that's 2 on the other hand some of this information is just really straightforward and every gt that and every anticipate in of microphone 3 please the thank you for your excellent work it's really amazing I was wondering when you talk about the collaboration which areas of the world who were collaborating with people inferences they may be altered if you quote tell a bit about your experience and a cultural differences maybe and the willingness to adopt your methods all to collaborate with you and change the mind-set and how we think about the topic and all the issues related to most of my collaborators are coming from the US and Europe so I'm basically very Western perspectives working on this project I've done workshops in Hong Kong and in Indonesia ends on I mean I definitely had to week the narrative a bit I mean on I I did the 1 worshipper did Hong Kong but I do I was clamoring within artist I just found and we actually try to frame it as like a satire on of beauty culture in Hong Kong because it's I mean the the really big on cosmetics and facial creams and things like that and so we decided like let's extract the hormones
from our our mutual friend who used to be a beauty pageant let's take her year and that's seeker hormones for estrogens and then let's makes it into the screen and so will call it like a like a beauty spa treatments to beautify yourself to become more feminine so really didn't have as a kind of satire but I would say that you know and in them East Asian Southeast Asian parts of the world maybe they're feminisms are a little bit behind compared to like Western feminisms but and I'm just overgeneralizing I know in some parts it's not true but on I would like to actually get out of this slide Eurocentric a Western-centric perspective on hormones and yeah if anyone wants to collaborate let me know from microphone for please FIL on the good question to ask you talked about k keeping in different trends individuals as a matter of some missing misconception that there's obviously another element which has to do with latent bigotry and the powers that be having best interests in policy agendas and certainly some of all out you're it on this a lot of those points in trying to the road those structures you performances but this it is the question is the questions were about your work about Pat granting individuals more formal agency the do you see how do you think this would this will interact with a view with institutional goals institution keeping for toss trans bodies to think that in the uh additional agency of an the individual must tutional level would what is traditionally would contribute to eroding this Germany or do you go to the reaction that would added additional gatekeeping snage restrictions and it's really hard to make a dent n the use of pharmaceutical industries and in our the so I mentioned and collaborating with SRI right hand and arm they're actually going forward with this on yeast synthesis protocol like they've actually and they're they're working on an artist's like shoes institution budget and I really commend them for that and ends on the I think the as Ryan is creating that organism that transgenic used to produce hormones there also really consciously aware of how those companies could come in and basically ruined the with and what they're doing you know because we're talking about like yeah a David and Goliath situation I think the companies have much more power to come in and save you can be doing the research we have a patent on that so on so it's interesting right like as an artist in a biohacker you're also like you also talking was like lawyers and and trying to get a free consultation on that on you know a lot of artists have done like protest art or whatever against like Monsanto his beard and he's big like giants these Goliaths ends up I think it's actually bad PR for them if they go after artist but I I think it's really hard to like actually to to make a dent in these companies has to happen at the policy level I think why what we're doing is artist biohackers performance art is not the but who knows right who knows medium underestimating what we can do and so I believe you do I think you freakin out a lot of microphone 1 please at the time so I was wondering if you have thought about the uh morally mechanical aspects of the morphological freedom or modification which in a transition like surgery of esthetics and pick anything from a roadmap to totally speculative fiction of the but because of that mechanical the Lake augmentation meaning of an anonymous augmentation but like anything from surgery to the fall for that when when you talk about it gender transition technology of course like surgery and to to make your body as you want it to be a because you you you you tend flows on on hormones which is awesome and but I was also thinking about whether you also consider each uh whether you could maybe do surgery at home at the end of this segment in a future work of self-organized a that that sounds really scary and I have never considered that no use talking and in own I I am familiar with a couple of yeah like DIY abortion kits are like and I've never heard of any like DIY like top surgery of but that sounds really really but maybe my happen someday I don't know anyone that's working on that the the does the Internet have a question but when we just don't OK and then might for please the they have a little and just 1 the air and thank you for your i the interesting talk and might have this topic connected to Artemis sodium man connecting like uh gamma them more the quia or topic here connected to sin tener P optics and everything and this makes me a little bit questioning and when we're talking about xenobiotics and and it the the homocysteine Walker was this is only 1 part how infect our body there's also that they change also our calcium mandible bones in the brain and the hallmark and not only the immune system everything so if we had just thinking about the put that kind of positive connected affects about this again and this takes in about objects of how do we have be secured that we don't use the precaution but we should have 4 books in a by optics Annex to the UN also don't think that actually it's good that we have just components similar environment but I'm not saying that it's good that the toxicity there in the environment then about but that any the companies can use this a little bit like when we're thinking OK however our body is always changing the always influence that engines can be the same the same amount thinking in companies can use to justify what they are doing yeah yeah exactly so yeah I actually I I and I was answers 1 time in the past of from the artists and yes me what what this on companies and take my discourse of like our toxic emancipation however and and this is used as a marketing ploy which I think would be really alive at least some of the things that I yeah I mean you see it on the CIA west like marine pollution data college our our oceanic pollution the colored marine debris at all the plastics and ocean it's marine debris it's not even toxic but yeah I am kind of I am aware of that ends on yeah I would be really fucked up if they if they did that on the bed again I mean this company is pairs of all kinds of responding needed resources at their disposal and yet something to be cautious about thank you for for time I think we're through with you in a thank you very much but if you think you often talk and I don't know will really like world war that kind of so to its
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Titel Open Source Estrogen
Untertitel From molecular colonization to molecular collaboration
Serientitel 34th Chaos Communication Congress
Autor maggic
Lizenz CC-Namensnennung 4.0 International:
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DOI 10.5446/34846
Herausgeber Chaos Computer Club e.V.
Erscheinungsjahr 2017
Sprache Englisch

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Abstract Collaborative and interdisciplinary research, Open Source Estrogen combines biohacking and artistic intervention to demonstrate the entrenched ways in which estrogen is a biomolecule with institutional biopower. It is a form of biotechnical civil disobedience, seeking to subvert dominant biopolitical agents of hormonal management, knowledge production, and anthropogenic toxicity. Thus, the project initiates a cultural dialogue through the generation of DIY/DIWO (do-it-yourself/do-it-with-others) for the detection and extraction of estrogen, and contextualized as kitchen performance and queer body worship.
Schlagwörter Art & Culture

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