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but if there are mining Wayne scalable for those of you don't know me i'm currently for better or worse I the project leader for fatigue and project on this is probably going to be the only presentation why don't worry with the details of how to get works and i it's not how to do this is basically a presentation on the state of the project as it stands right now on I'm guessing if you're here you probably have some experience with schematic-capture pretty circuit board layout and so on the mean of the volumes current most of us have probably use commercial tools in our careers open-source tools and various other tools throughout that period time so on a little background reason I chose this pattern is because if you know the project long enough students see that you find it really is a journey mean we get people that come in and come out quickly they burn out like industrial for a long time it you really have to on kind of look at it as it's a it's a marathon words which if you wanna make it ago in that unit to a point words usable for lots of people and so on so 1 of like any jury it's always important to look back to see where you came from because by took a snapshot let's say the Developers mailing list 1 for any 1 since I joined the project I guarantee you that what you'll see half a dozen issues pop pop song pretty controversial we've all been there we understand it if you just look at the so these little snapshots in time you would think wire my doing from market and but when you actually go back in a kind of you the project as a long-term process it definitely you start to realize here we've we've accomplished a lot over the years so I'm going to give you so come
along in a brief history of to get on the to the project to be around for a very long time of people knew that it was started by a gentleman named Jean-Pierre shoreline I'm sure not pronouncing it right In 1992 and for those of you don't know Jake we affectionately known as Japan he's a university professor in France and he started well Yoshi I believe it was based on an open source C project and I'm not all member the name some of this is on dude from memory so little rain but it it was just a schematic capture he ported over C + + it was something for his stays pretty taught engineering electrical logical electron engineering he in in 1 of 2 1st is to use and basically from 19 to 2006 he was a one-man project on it was most it was all completely you in some of the I'm sure it by the looks right 1st project looking at the code was like because code formatting is all of the map sure that there were other people that probably students that had been on the originally you could was there was even in collaboration with what I'm doing a project you want to build the had on you had to do talk archived out yet downloaded you there was on the enrolled makefiles but there is no version control no public access to you know collaborators no mailing list you know on a number of things that we we take for granted now in project OK it in so what happened was in that's pretty much how well for a long time late 2006 argon involved because I change jobs to a small company that you from the commercial that available were not financially and I do need that kind of power right is needed to do some test words to happen so I examined 2 competing projects at the time both here and and she CAD and warm things it was really the teacher had 4 at the time what you can actually build it on windows and since I was working for a company that said this is what we you're you're putting Linux onto the of computer was not an option timeline of personal computer that's different so that kind of pushed the push in that direction and that's why I chose a project I had a meeting and in there was something there that I can good job contribute to and not was 1 of the questions that they're Leslie somebody as me as we want to contribute to kick and well that reason for quite a few years before this I've been using Linux and sometimes use fix I would say maybe my 1st version which enchantress a long time on I kind of thought and obligation to give back to the community and right I have been used the open-source for both personally and professionally so I I look for projects for a long time I could find a good fit now we can double the I you help under which involve the board layout and yeah media not degrees per room when I know not in recent years world but you have to be able to both those things that do the very domain specific problem writing up all of atomic development application so this is just the computers just being slow my jointly had this is what I saw I was like a lot so pretty colors I'm not I'm not trying to give anybody a hard time here but as a professor you know you use professional tools and services in the color the colored attacks and what not kind incidental little bit so I I I think what I will do but anyway at the end of 2006 I you know GPA and we started to get in the conversation about make a public goods the status of the underestimated only money went to call back and was my predecessor was also doing this at the same time so but but but because there's no mailing list that was to sever conversations so I had already started working on because but Dick took the initiative set up the version control originally we're on sourceforge and use in some versions but now we had and always mailing list we had yeah intro bedraggled things that you know exactly all the younger people in here take for granted but the old way that things were always done release not well on n costs you know get into those was 1 thing that I started being around code in yeah namely there was it it was a pretty bad state I mean by no people communal project new noun involving all my god of first-order legacy code think cat that without about these be cleaned up there's on not you know not to be labeled point but it there's there's lots of going and then we started in contributions 3 primary developed there was myself DEC in we need now he 7 1 guy working only got 3 you now we're all part time keep in mind all 3 of us have full-time jobs and this is very much up to this school year yeah 1 guy an that on 3 guys so were they were started we you know there was like a series of general files to build it was always true did doing dependency checking the you of your your library's role there so you see make is configurational configuration told that because
the GP is as English as a world almost a lot of the comments in the source code and even some of the source code code itself was in french so unlike I can't work on this like in the arcane even read it so now I was 1 of the 1st things I did is it of the project was translate all the documentation and it was a lot of using Google Translate during have so and so and it is what content because in even some of the stuff that was in English was improper English so I had to go figure out what the code and so what that I spent probably to the 1st 2 years my project the we decided we're ready the oxygen to do to do or source sources of code documentation that and that's because I know I was working through the code and looking at it I would see the same 8 10 lines of the of the highlighting this 10 lines go somewhere else the short of it I have to go through the rule book replicable venture out there or so there was lots and lots of refactoring and I could take the precaution so we took on trying to pull out of the so know know this was really a long time just in the original code base if you would go back and keep rotten and pull commit 1 and pool like maybe commit 2 thousand and look at the difference in the source code where it was and where we got to it it is significant not we don't have a long way to go but it it's it's still aha ok so once we got the coding in some semblance of but it where you can actually add things about the whole thing falls apart because originally it was pretty much a house course brought the introduce libraries on because it's some pretty nice continue classes with pointers 1 9 so that's been replaced by the latest related C + + you what postal so the electrical force 11 to so that taking care of originally designed filling algorithm i in I don't know how many people use that that will go use the segments to literally you would do is it would fill with little teeny tiny St. and if you ever had a board made you were carefully looked at end submodular hop you know where the the blood and the same was joins the girder output following so it means so that change we work from the same filter poly poly on the exiles major 1 of the things that in originally there was no way to tell you on what the trace for this net to be this that I want to guarantee minimum spacing between that so we add that on the layer management all layers all time will use you start laying out a PC board you can quickly realize you get more than a couple layers that becomes problematic so we had designed to foster violated rat of widgets now 1 of things the the wrapper was all manual mean there's no around what it wasn't anything you know just basically you could do a lot with but 1 thing that would that contributed this was is unfortunate this projects going now because of licensing issues on the free rider was rather a clever told in that it wanted a spectra via format we which we exported from worst of 1st prismatic in the in the Board outline comported into through our it we had we had the money already to the so you need jobs that run in you could produce a push of around to run were very handy and then it would seem in fact DSN and then the SM will go back in PCB known and if you had piece of a new know what this was from when this was very we deploying in manager for because the the old classic file format we have like if you want to import this file format the resist peace a code in there was that decoding for that file format these libraries and so we wrote and I O Manager and zone so a nice piece of code in that it's easy to add In we can support anything that anybody feels like brains haven't time import in most work most of our 3rd party we import we don't export to think of we import a commercial product and monitors for the personally I'm not interested in exporting into a total lie but important point we want use patient in and out order then we have to be poor and so we have quite a few reporters internally originally I think they are continuous or 10 thousands of an inch was neutral saying the old classic floating point rounding errors and we're all familiar with although she start doing things that you little numbers it falls apart so we went to nanometers in our things integer big-integers but it's edges and so there's no rounding and what not and you can always get from metric to English which is kind nice for those of us and became 1 of the later on once once we have the co-based we we swing got use we got all the the public objects 1st of all Python on all kinds of important cost of DXF import it's that word as you paying as Fuji what most of popular graphic formats that you can think of on we have bond generator which is the program which is really clever piece of programming and then inside you doing would do in dialogs with by Jonas kind of time and instead of its formed over and over widget or our our dialog box layout next probably taken you know there's a lot easier now do some against them to do all
dialogs on never told working like take a bit map converted into well both boarding somatic objects ink input images in your drawing on you can also do that match record in a schema they don't really mean anything you and or PC with on there's like tries calculator tool that pretty basic but on you basic electron stuff is not 1 of fancy in and on we we had templates so there's quite a few temples like some of the standard form words like this the loss on form words there's a more layout with although I know in the correct place and you you wanna do of on a project without more using 1 make of a daughter card amount to it just sort that and everything to the right place the the right place then you can make a smackdown around all the all the existing stuff that went on for about 6 years the 3 of us that in and so few other contributors that that this way how was on some other developers as well in 2012 we were purged Fleischer about this out and for the 1st time we actually had on this part there over hardware initiative on they kind of were under this well you know for the open if we have open hardware it doesn't really make sense for us to have in a proprietary file format and so they approach the project and asked if we were interested of course markers we've all been working on this just our spare time of free time so we start talking about start discussions on the future development including open GL rendering of the shell routing which Tong apartment as 1 reason I didn't wanna do it a general provide it I think you'll be somewhere the press by the bushel around style on revenue told framework which really makes it a lot nicer way way in your code was for a pretty ugly the way he had don't hold on so now we have actually paid staff users a few members of service that actually local Q counts for job which is most of the force on he also sponsored a rewrite of war file format we we have all of the original files and that was really limited so we went to like a list and you go and look at the PC the new file format looks very much like Lisp code itself we there was like a long discussion about maybe is an XML but and I I I I I want to be able to read files because of you ever debugging of all possible you know that if you can read the file but what would be what design good parts so that XML I I don't think that the Internet is not very human readable so we went with sort of the list the syntax and if you look at it you don't respect was was probe but it's very easy to read you could act if you could look at every element in a war file and you can tell what it's you have to gasses you know the some documentation if it probably really except for a few there is there's a lot on that doesn't really it's very human readable and this is when I ask stable right so basically this is where we were in 2012 now lies happened since then so if you're if you're brave enough to use them the test the head of the this is what you see and actually in all fairness 1 the things that the project is really try to do the job of this if you're brave enough to running the the testing grant I don't ever remember very few times has not compiled and where we rarely have like rule catastrophic boards like you're not gonna lose all your data you know it's we've done in the job of trying to make on the project 1 more time so now we we now have OpenGeo power rendering just be the it has has not been ported over to the schematic that between framework which I talked about which makes a lot easier to add more complicated and interesting tools to systematic of the water we shall rally was time talk about me I don't I don't know if I seem to benefit from the ship you know people coming projects and while we were 16 layers that originally was 32 16 copper 16 other in some of the other layers were you know predefined you can define the way you want so yup that 64 right is anybody doing very t-layer copper had that happen at the 28 wrestling 20 also that's not not just to but we support dialog of far a couple months ago Dick is last term long before we left the project was seen we extracted out of that you're indisposed on this code the summer that there was a lot of interdependency between some base objects and you like which took a long long time to kind of D. couple those 2 things and so on the nice thing about this is now all of the the applications and she can editor of schematic making a run on a single processor is a peer toddler and I'm not find work well if you're comfortable running along a single process they can all be wrong part of project manager managers and process or you go once the somatic as interesting 1 and where snake that weighting that problems on both in their on the nice thing the single part process itself before is another process communication there's always issues with doing that on releasing process is nominal allows future to do back and forth between water so say in the case of Penn swapping apart swapping on main aboard I got but across the well but just what the screens but my cross goes away so we would be able do but forward-backward irritation between both in that's that's way future as that army to manage the work of In case footprint library and more important so we can import directly from Eagle projects and we also do the Library import or not Borja and we got DXF important ideas that were get helpful plug-ins a begin plug-ins rather clever you can now do your offer pre libraries we in fact also per line of libraries renowned get home you used to get a plug-in and whenever the updated you automatically get and it's pretty it's got a copy you can you modifier to a local copy on your machine then you can do that differ in send it to the the library maintainers maybe they'll add you change it or you can even do your own if you if you know like those there are libraries you can but you get help libraries up there and you can access them just yet because use URL in the library namely US license occurs my the documentation here in the library or split out a several projects if you look at key CAD total install right now is running around 700 the the k Ernst energy the may exert on which is you know all the libraries all 3 D models all the symbol libraries key in all the key can binaries this in the docking tations quietly project we had this comes in association with of Tom working on different repair routing so you guys have been trained emission lines must be itself that's something I'm sure that they're interested in an early or late last year from now onwards there will be confronted with yourself this is where we are right now and so
was an act we're going to do about this 1 that and is addresses some of the things that people of who is now about it was just I know it's on on the next next is reiterated Europe for a stable reasons we haven't done 1 in 2 years but we we get a lot of you pressure Harry once they were released in 1 DEC my predecessor didn't believe that philosophy he wanted people use the bleeding edge in so I I I I disagree with that but you know how you know projects or you can do which 1 you know it by the or I was in a position to make that decision and I am wearing awarded a stable release hopefully by the middle issue once so we commit move on the differential paramount our rounding will star of of of the of the feature freeze will do the usual go through the usual steps and dual hopefully released here shortly I'm so what's next on related to our user face kind of rule we like to you know get out of the toward all the things that people can't expect from graphical interface we we have an innate it's it's going to get when we have enabled because every time we do it just creates a mass and so we turn back off again I I sum this has to do with wx widgets was a library we use so it's not quite Roman chariot no do and we noticeable problems we geometry libraries of trees OK and right now we have basically 3 we have 1 that's induced there's another 1 that we use the source correctly and there's cost all the individual functions that we can store all over the place and all he can to any of really really have unified geometry libraries in our what geometry you drawing it's all we always use the same library on the 1 hand on this is important when you talk about this earlier with the our simulation guys we value our truly actually to anything and whether it's and that all components or whatever on we need we have added that attributes of the simulations can simulators can do their job so that's we we can displace right now it's a little awkward and clumsy what on we need a later on on the symbol library editor speech as images on we want for all the editing tools right now only a partial set of the arm subset of the and tools of importance of the neutral framework and overview of NGO and car and so sometimes have to switch and forth back and forth between graphics roads to do if Leadenhall PCB that's that's only after that and we got 3 D modeling who improvers right now with different modeling and it's not perfect but i she does a pretty job of representation which principle guide on we there's talk about new cascade library possibly Susan step use of steps formats for 3 D export so people were doing modeling to put the parts together like you know you don't just made war part on if it's in something sleazy Kayser whatever so on that's something that we need we need to address the course now that we have an easy way to do we don't we kind we don't have to necessarily be a process communication thing now we will then add been Gates swapping and those types of features that you see in like the commercial all products that will give us on our use that now we're a big a big part of improved of selection to want things conic quirky when selecting groups of tools original objects like a war we currently have some issues dealing with that this 1 I think is important and this was not this is a tricky problem solved when you're talking about Waneta for analysis program not graphics and text you have things are connected together how you know so what we need to address the cut based we were where it work because people expect that working we don't have the on social life that we need to improve their citizens in bits and pieces on join segment and stuff like a lot of people like endpoint snapping right now you have to know exactly where you're drawing it to work perfectly on we daggers and some enhances react deserved love people like to use g belts of preventing things get too close together 1 on on we also need a port what we have the reviewers well and that is important to but come on in the distant future we like to maybe possibly think that's 1 of things that on here to talk about some with some of the selected ice is about digital simulation in collaboration with other in project and developers and really a lot of interesting stuff here there was no when here and then I refused to give his complaint every time were not covered area for 2 years resource for large pride and then the now down the bazaars kind of died off in development of final if you should know that a pretty much it seems to be dead and so had everything this comes up every time we do have a mere for people who want contribute when you ever get me on you own you know is just until I knew the next until we next they release I don't wanna go to because 1 thing we will we went from source cost to want that we lost the long bond history a lot that kind of local knowledge beginning getting information so I wanna be careful about what we do not only make sure we have a good solution and I'm I'm not 100 per cent convinced that were very the so In
conclusion on the project's growing in leaps and bounds there's a lot of interesting stuff I think if you stay in what's the are our thing you in you it's pretty might on thank you sir interested you can use a lot of people here I expected and I wanna opinion you know I do words thinking promulgated often not in this community are in general around here but I would give a special shouting logs of how your awful he put all this together for us and served for making this possible because without their donations and contributions in these kind of things will be possible to things and in the few and we started human just wanna remember on here I'll fly out tomorrow morning so if you have things your talk about the cat I would much rather talk to you person then try to do it on a developer mailing list is much as bad as our communication medium I find that it's not necessarily the most efficient way to exchange ideas & national ideas and gotten minutes in your mind there are more than willing to talk and discuss the future about future CAE-CAD in a way that you can contribute so before OK so any any questions not the common view of the city of Barrie you know of what you heard the not the story we make sense of only it on the question was about on on interactive use but there were 4 simulation they are actually the limiting factor vitamin
fundamentally the goal is to give the reader right now I'm thinking was still haven't decided yet it's either going to be a generic key value pair or generic c-value TypeError hour or 2 of the you try I don't know how we're doing yeah there's like this to me is so that that's what I think because in that because to me is the post-processing varies process is gonna know it that year's right you know it or hopefully hopefully handles and I don't so basically anything that the ball was the way I'm thinking of the file format and working in the attributes internally as in the data is basically you it is the goal was to be able add an attribute to any object in the PCB now whether that makes sense a lot I know look at that what is active users will schematic at a reward and may not do anything with them but it'll save woman and pulling back out so that if you were post-processed netlist always the same in that list with the object that they belong to and if you were post-processed and then that's something you can do on both in the war thought about the probably in a war file format as well so you were post-processing to do any kind of simulation they'll be there you just have it responsibility process incorrectly gnocchi cantonal just pairs gain of question I don't know all yeah I know I'm not toward right to be honest with you I have on my my peripheral on so the last me of it using the best places in the contact me directly on you like e-mails on the on the on OK with that on on on mailing lists and scalable w my last name and you know knock on so on on a perfectly OK with that and if if it's really a big conversation on what happened in my phone number only we can call child online on arms staying presented some more talks I want I want see they don't have time the so theories the the poor people the the were then the the I it is the question is it is on the wing for both libraries and are you words register libraries just the will looking OK let me clarify that right now only the work of footprint libraries in the morning supported active only in the latest I believe it's only latest file format which is X not acts like an XML dialect in it the the newest version in the form of what I'm not 100 % sure but I know right now only the war let you save you important words the you rendering the PCB new just like it wouldn't and then you would you save it save it obviously not saying back to we save it and PCB there are our file format but yet many importers dress and libraries as well you can actually doing to an XML file that we have this library management tool called a footprint library tables new connection point it and tell it hey this isn't an evil file in in all the footprints out you can add you can look at and just like you can anymore footprints and then you can you can save as on can get operates it's but we have to the schematic and some libraries on that that's enter the next without too much they will and the and so on and so on you you in the ice I and kill numbers name I spoke to the idea that I told him on the telephone and he could see eye contact me directly announcement about where OK if we put these on that you can website and like get sure he has a whole bunch of really good videos I highly recommend them if you stare stark now he covers he's these electronics engineer he uses that this part of his consulting job at time in east and they're very good but I looked at a few of them like and I need to when I look at a few want to see the quality of there if you're if you just learning can can check this out various all of the this b and fast
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Titel Kicad ED A
Untertitel Where we've been, where we are, and where we hope to go
Alternativer Titel Electronic Design Automation - KiCad
Serientitel FOSDEM 2015
Autor Stambaugh, Wayne
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DOI 10.5446/34362
Herausgeber FOSDEM VZW
Erscheinungsjahr 2016
Sprache Englisch
Produktionsjahr 2015

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