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Today freedom of the press and freedom of expression are under serious threat in numerous countries. This threat is present in authoritarian states as well as in democracies generally considered to be well established and stable. Can new online media and much-touted grassroots journalism offer a way out?
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things we're here for a very interesting topic and I think you very important topic um which we all witnessed in the media recently so I would like to introduce a soul analyzes and you'll God is through this discussion we have a very interesting guest here Solana will introduce the most well um base the top this discussion is represented by a policeman they're all so I'm going to have a research project on this half that's sustainable governance indicators and of course advertisement transformation index and them well there's nothing much to say it's obvious what we're talking about the title says it's it's about media freedom um ends on the pressure but it's only the classical media on that is under pressure in some countries but is also that that digital media blocks of Twitter's but are under pressure and now I'm very interesting and very and I'm curious what's the speakers have to say about that the evolution in this field so just hand over to so thanks thank you on welcome to to everybody and I won't talk too much and in the beginning I just it right now I think it must be quite confusing time to study media freedom because at the
same time as you have huge gains and some indexes especially in some countries in the world and you also have new kinds of government interference surveillance censorship of kinds that you could never have imagined just 10 years ago and so with this here today we have error in the loop and was a journalist and researcher of freedom of the press in Turkey and LaserWriter website called at the end that or I we also have an so that uh and whose from Russia investigative journalist and editor of a website called agony into a dot are you which is an information have on intelligence agencies in Russia and finally we have Dr. Sally have Breton because
that's and who is a research officer at the London School of Economics and leading has a media policy project and I am I think let's start with you and there's been a lot about Turkey in the press lately and we have a very heavily on this slide from the the as G. I and project that shows on Turkey's media freedom and media pluralism in comparison with some other countries that people in the audience may be familiar with and countries in the European
Union it looks like turkeys doing very badly in terms of media freedom of media freedom and media pluralism and what's happening you has the internet not changed everything and I think that the exchange uh and many things but intended to with
the time of gaining in importance to the uh which affair and the government I think that we enjoy at the beginning uh let's say between 2 thousand and 2 thousand 10 uh of a good period but they aborted and censorship low on the on the internet the year in 2008 uh they they ban you to before 2 years in Turkey and many is too small creation of uh website of independent journalist has been has been done at the same time so in the in the 1st I'm very from Europe to introduce an index because it's representing a country it who failed uh reform move for the EU membership of 1st of all because we we we spend the 12 years for accomplishing these reform for 4 in the line of the the European Court of Human Rights we found in this aspect plus we we added new dimensions and
the knew of censorship and self-censorship categories in this in this field yeah many Jonathan again yes they are of no
but they have a a lot about the the solution that the government found that uh last month's was to the low for a state of for limiting 3 tried attention to 5 years had you imagine and then uh within 3 months so Genovese was literally reduced because the problem is there and there is a clear resistance from the judiciary to to applying in the line of the last convention and I'm sure that everybody and will remember a more recent example of of the Twitter back that everyone was talking about that's so long you dimension that isn't even targeting journalists directly the between Turkey and and the you you are never able to understand that the year a
reason why uh social media is back behind that the explanation of the to reviews these yes so there we found some a couple of of the deal violating the memory of stuff like a attitude you have only 2 of the Turkish Republic etc. you can find
everything but and finally all these situations that contribute to a planned process and it was the case for the Twitter and 1 weeks later 1 week later for you to put this in a you know when you are in this movement rights movement you know they're well that there is another reason much more relevant and finally the this social media is is of Christ because they are using many content embarrassing content for the prime minister for his family maybe act used to be a part of corruption of errors and sovereignty so it's interesting to us so the cost we are dealing with a lot the reason and Moon move explanations but in
Turkey we should always look for them to find the real the real reason let's let's say I jump and had to and 200 in Russia there is there's another slide here I know it seems odd to 2 and jumped from country to country that and that this 1 yes this and to jump from country to country but I want us to look at these different examples from different countries in different context and talk a little bit about how we improve things and in terms of media freedom and because it's so easy to look at the things that are going badly and shake their heads but but
what is what is improving and and how can we push push that this is a slide that shows and freedom of expression and the DTI transformation index prepared this 1st Russia is the
red line in there and then there are comparisons to other countries that are considered an comparible in economic terms and at the top the list you see Jamaica animating the strangers essentially to compared to make and Russia when you read the report it makes sense and i and j the point of this slide is that freedom of expression
is under threat in Russia and yeah it seems not so long ago that we were celebrating new media freedoms interaction and using a perspective Frank and there would be no more timely and debate but they have not because just today lies which assigns a law I which requires soul will go service more on of that 3 floors and the law that are about to be registered and so actually it's it's it's it's have been just now and that while the the head of good points i and stages of Moscow Protestant the 11 the falls on 12 Russian new media are each used to be in use invaders and and to be frank very the fairest say it in a way as to to be able to hire journalists they tried just to our core stories and sometimes to translate critical stories from the west and uh over Western media into so that's why some of them became very popular but there is a process of
some of these media decided to fire really reporters that's why and maybe in the short of investigations than about are not sort of reports all this change now mostly because of Ukraine as the most amazing story happened if the biggest
new media graphical Atlanta throw as edible this a i Media Arts was fired because she refused to fire it water and who actually fought from Crimea and and Ukraine and it was the values about clear signal for all of us but no it's not only this about investigations which are not allowed to be published by new media and it's long about fall fall for traditional media was about was a problem for many years but it's also about a quarter and all that you might be allowed to do is to what some critical comments and that even in these idea there would be some problems today because they have again just today so too big to be so insistent that
just today together this decision of the court about support can of 1 of the last independent by this small but significant new media call granted don't throw and now when great through on I went to the support of skin for
our explanations why these media was blocked at today's explanation which was provided us quiet I think illuminates his explanation was there is no particular story in Ovid's provocative our participation in our unsanctioned that made the stations which was a professor by the whole context of of the sides pro-bork the readers to think that it might be good to go to consumption function with this and I think it's so me as forward so broadly what you can understand that so and it was a political decision that that if any effect in media
freedom is challenged how are you able to have a website that reports and intelligence agencies in Russia up was the 1st the reason is about you have a relatively small circulation in Russia as
mostly emit and absorb this and maybe community has the 2nd thing is about the never published anything on all that side as the 1st of the 1st slowly and all this are track if you really want to have suffered published I we try to find Western publications to get published are like when we decided to amend the font information about our
surveillance I introduced in the so she because it validates the abrupt history is a guide and mentor the published by some Russian media and eventually posted
on our website so reserved about our strategy of farm of the fence the I'd like to bring bring Sally into this because
there's 1 more before you think that the other European countries are are not mentioned in in these index and here's here's Sam a slide that shows that and some Eastern countries are overtaking what was known as Western countries and so we have the UK France and Italy that suddenly appear to have less media freedom and less media pluralism on this scale and then the Czech Republic Poland Lithuania Latvia and Estonia and Sally you studied at media across many different countries in the European region is it because they UK France and Italy
are doing so badly or is it because the other countries are doing much better and well I think it's sometimes a bit of a false comparison to take these directly 1 to another but there is pretty much an obvious trend that things are going down in these indicators in UK France Italy and things are probably doing better than they were In our Estonia Latvia Lithuania Poland and public of and I think that the decline of people perceive in the UK France and Italy and has a lot to do with media pluralism and the issues around ownership and construction of ownership and the convergence of the access to platforms and and also I think we can't underestimate the surveillance revelations and there's already been some research about how much of the journalists are now concerned about revealing their sources inadvertently people because they're being surveilled of our is that if the guardian has said
that they include everything they have completely changed how they communicate on e-mail they have completely changed so they communicate on the phone and and so this is a pressure
that has here in the biggest 1 in Western Europe that maybe some of the countries the smaller countries that are really on the forefront of those battles are necessarily feeling or even necessarily perceiving it although they should know that there are also helps you to estimate how this and make and how does it make somebody like you
and feel to hear that have Western journalists are experiencing some of the things that were you know have take typically been challenges in unfree moments in Russia's history of the Soviet Union how does it look from the outside and out well 1st of all other should keep in mind that there was a Russian
said in this case Russian government like to use it is um but to ref too but acquitted the British example our for example when the guys out system of Internet filtering and falls non 12 hours excuse provided by the Russian government uh was to say something like just try to repeat is a British example the bridges has very early on system often demand for the Internet filtering and that it tried to protect issued on why we the Russians are the not want to put that down to them and they have the same reaction of the small the the relation sorry got lots of specimens something about it should should be it should sound very familiar to you of a to need to protect personal data of all Russian citizens out so I think visa strategy event counters and government-set set tried to refered to each other I just to find new repressive measures is a very common thing to take Sally and mentioned earlier today
that he thinks that people are also and following that the leader of them added when it comes to banning to and is this something previously when you look at just media freedom like old-style media not Internet is it was this a common tactic where governments would cover each other and and learn learn tactics from each other in this regard it isn't just so that they learn
tactics but especially with you integration there were there's policy that has to be transferred into law of and and so but you need to actually act at an international level on these things and it's so it's easier to see for instance in the UK with the Leveson Inquiry and the reform of press regulation where the UK was 1 that had really the absolute minimum complete self-regulation very hands off in terms of press because of the things that happens now they're looking at revising that immediately other countries jumping on it's a OK well now we can do and using it as
an excuse but also there are issues like the net neutrality for instance that are going to be decided in Brussels that than everyone else will have to comply to inference in Slovenia and the Netherlands have much of more protected net neutrality then is currently in a European directive in their media freedom in that sense is going to be undermined if that comes from Brussels which is why people need to be very active not just in their own country but also at the European level whether the candidate countries for Member States and of course as as more of journalism know mainstream or or not moves online this legislation that affects the Internet and the bloggers in the social activist will eventually also directly affect journalists think an error in in Turkey and especially with the the current wave of protests that you had over the past year and there has been so much information published online that never made it into the newspapers and
is I mean when we have the internet do we really still need media freedom I moving into a a a phase-in time where it's becoming less important that we have media freedom when people can just go on the Internet and do whatever they want I think that 1st off although we should not expect to have the same impact from the internet uh comparing the mainstream media for some country like Turkey for example I think that what is there uh and what we can expect for the moment used to have some good references of journalistic practices and I think that the verb is there in Turkey we have uh a couple of so good use the web site of the world which we came with the time refuge for the uh Genovese fired from their working place in Turkey uh and in 2000 to 13 last year more than 150 years in uh well-known journalists or reduction members fire all pushed for to resign because of the pressure of the media magnate who wants to have good relations with the with the government who wants to because
these media magnate and finally the invested in media sector that they have and they have a uge investment in other sectors like I don't know he to electric sometimes constructions banking sector of some of the automobile sector and so
on so it did they want to have a good relation with their belong there and his uh government and when it's the the case to fly out of 4 firing uh 20 it's not a problem that explanation is ready he is not able to adapt himself to our neuron editorial line that's all so I think that they the internet online is very important to to say to to to to receive a brave courageous good journalistic who have steal their vote to say and I think in Turkey so with this vibrant civil society with these uh uh you uh and uh alternative media of the
examples I think that it's a it's a good uh so it's a good preparation for the future because I think that everyone 1 is now in the face to to kill investigated the new
investigative journalist is not any more present in financial and is not to be able to check what's really happening financial corruption of the mole being or any other bad bad bad practices but it's it's it's it's important to say a few of you have a German higher and higher and so just for having degree I think that use the Internet is a is a is a is always hope for the future and J. where when agendas this girl after their fired in mention
but life think we we have the same situation that led this novel discovered about talk it maybe in the in the fossils and it because in the nite I said used to have very far actually free
and liberal media and then got this fall Jonas expelled from traditional media every year which ended up in new media the problem was that had to be frank I'm quite skeptical Baker said is John it's of goes to the very critical of the government about a not given enough money it's you conduct investigations to do reporting so it was that it was mostly barge critical columns I was not about real journalism so as I said you get some good journalism only during the protests and now because it was immediately and almost immediately destroyed now I so to befriend what we are left the 5 is them again and we have a space on social networks which you can use to i to about to discuss something that the actually watch on TV it says to me seems to be
very close to what we used to have decided times when you can watch TV and to be very critical I but what you see in about itself this is very far from real John extremely far and then given the the latest example I but Ukraine
full Russian orders audiences extremely difficult or might be impossible to understand what is going on that had not because they cannot read these things and traditional media because it was restraints on city and also in social networks and they have so many unchecked stories so that the only source of information for Members to to try to read these things in English Sally I think we've always
been told that and with democracy comes free press and a lot of the countries in Eastern and Eastern Europe and South Eastern Europe and have essentially become democracies but they're press freedom is still under threat can you
explain some of that the tension in that this situation I'm thinking for instance of Hungary or or some of the other countries that are known right not to have quite serious situations for what I think that some free press and democracy kind of go hand in hand and I think in those places where we are seeing serious threats to media freedom we also need to question the extent to which this real democracy and because without those voices i and you you don't really have a public debate and and I think this is where 1 of the challenges with seeing Internet as a fix for and the problems of mainstream media because you still need to have this sort of either national level or global level public discourse about things which requires some kind of of filter some sort of some some so so media that's going to process select and translate out to a bigger audience they can have that conversation and on the 1 hand the Internet does allow a kind of a global public for the big guys and I find it quite interesting that adjacent senses things to the guardian the WikiLeaks learned the same thing they can put everything out but until they send it to the guardian or to some big media that will get it out there process it for the audiences and get it to people who were influential and it doesn't really have that impact so you still need that megaphone effect and it's great to some extent so you can have that on a global level because as we saw with this Snowden across jurisdictions nobody can shut you down and if you don't publish in London you publish in New York published somewhere else and you can create that but for bloggers in Turkey in in Hungary and especially in small countries where there's communicating in a unique language for a very small population that megaphone effect is it happening and so the fact that there are threats to the mainstream media in these
countries is I think is seriously damaging blow to democracy and at some point we we would like to and take some questions from the audience if you have any and you can think of them and there have you have have you been watching that the situation in in Russia and and then of course you I'm the 1 who
said that 5 years ago we ever done should not have some friends like putting an Berlusconi and now they're finally I was added uh stuff goes you of course so I believe that this generation of Prime Minister are are not so friendly way there the Democratic stand that's and they are very much more friendly with the financial uh groups and uh keep these relations fresh fresh than had I think what happened was the service said I think that democracy is is a system where everybody every year political party groups are agreed to respect these come rule I'm not sure that in Hungary and inter-carrier MIT maybe we can multiply uh the examples that it in this country of course we have the ruling parties find for real reform on the paper but it's very hard to to
from Brussels to say whether these reforms are generated on the ground and uh whether they are consensus on lower between the political parties I cannot say we have for the 1st time in 2002 we had a a one-party
government OK I can it was wonderful and they started by by amending the shame article of the Criminal Code we said it's OK way out in the good road after that 20 years later so we to people talking about the reform all of you and we we still have to chapter to open with the with graphs and an everything seems to be solved but no in the in the in the in the in this society and everything is very and the everything in this society is very in as discussed and their that the social tension is is is there is uh rice I think that we need to count the game and I I am for Turkey I I should say that with these Polytopal produce approach
with these manipulative approach was off and on I think that we will never get with these uh social our money and finally to be ready to to negotiate decent membership for membership of you can you imagine that when we are reacting on the the the case of
journalist injured in Turkic he's able to say that all we know in Great return we know that doesn't journalist or in jail as well although you we know that many EU countries are not the same problems but nobody can say they are you able to give us an example and for his political must it's it's an explanation of his grave he's he's able to act at that address so she's able to to defend our cheeses except for active so I think that's for being able to with its mean that we're not trained in in in in social level but of course of negotiation of are still continuing and I hope that the situation with with change any questions in the audience who Sally
and Western you I the yeah hi my name is said Nick to posterior mode filmmaker from Canada is researching a documentary film sort of in the space and my observation is there's a lot of downward pressure on a good have the robust press
dialog that's well-funded that can do some uh well researched investigative journalism all over the world right now I think because of the changing media landscape because of the internet and not just in some countries where the government might opportunistically use that dynamic to advantage yeah In the observations from you uh both solutions or ways out of this or bright lights and obviously there's survivors there
you know who who have a voice and but what's the positive a part of this equation would be my question idea as a when I was them as to do this panel I made some notes about what are the pressures and 1 of
the big pressures that but was that the business model of mainstream media of and even not so mainstream media at the moment and and for all of the nice thing that I just said about the Guardian and its global public and speaking to global public and it hasn't managed to monetize that yet to prove that still in investment phase as as well as presented in is going to be a challenge and I think that's where we need to see the opportunity but because we have to find other ways of financing journalism and financing content and but you can talk about public service broadcasting in the UK and Germany and you can look at ways of funding the press across Europe and we've have people have done some research and safeguards and stuff but then when you get to countries where there is a political will to control the media any kind of public interventions into the media will be politicized
will have strings attached so I think we need to be really of creative about how to capitalize on the idea that the media are not just
necessarily based and how to change business models and and also we need to really think about what are the ways that policy is going to impact the potential for new business models and down here once again I was at neutrality we could think about think about that and think about what concentration in in the telecommunications and the USA spectrum is going to mean for the ways that people can can now develop new and creative business models for familiar and a few dozen up why I think that are you whether a
good point about international investigative projects that have sell them and they're at
some of our my extremely good and then I think there might be a very good in Omn investigates and stories that Shadish which might be and have some about some traces in now not 1 but that about many counters and also I think that that but what what might be a good thing is that sometimes you my unite not only the efforts of dominance by John Anderson activities and sometimes of people for might be very far from Jonathan have for example and these other 2 2 years ago so that the project trying to understand what's going on there faster wealth in Russia and because I'm a journalist so I need a technical advisor technical expertise ot about some technical solution sigh user by the Russian government and that we have now that is all the the drum project if I promise International based in London and Citizen Lab which is based in Toronto and I think it's extremely good thing because you can actually show experience you can share information data and then God said it's extremely about that thing because staff at the same time you mine publish Astoria international air as
it as is also might be a big of a good thing for the production at but also there's some issues like 2 years ago in Russia it was impossible to the accuse journalism of state treason because you should according to to to Russia legislation legislation you have
far and to have access to secret information and then you might be accused of disclosing this sequence now is completely changed now has a special special amendment uproot 2 years ago and now it Jonas this might be accused of being this uh a spy just because he boss something some some information added this information should not be necessarily secret to ethical at for the organization so in this case i halves of voices indeed need to prove or but is for an organization that uses spinal condition it might be a wider than we summarize organization that would be enough so that of course to put all of us in a very difficult situation because nobody knows who might be accused and for what actions at the yeah so and get went and
I lost my train of thought that and what do an what would the Russian government had done its snowed and where Russian at the out from the beginning to try to play have it's not than I and II his relations we used it by Russian officials to promote ideas cherish embarrassing
governments the ideas of national surveillance in Russia it means that the global platforms showed I have bag doors for Russian secret services AP ostensibly to protect their personal data fashion citizens and the idea is to for somehow global platforms like Facebook to relocate service to Russian as the lady said yeah hello follows to like it very Aventis idea not to help to develop this region and the problem is that it's a DVI actually the law I mention enter and the begin which was cited by pushing today actually establish at this rule now all internet services and it's a actually from a letter than very broad Broadway I don't know what what they mean all internet services should start date that on the USR and so on so it my mean 1 day you have you tried to press global platforms the role service and they try to justify all these measures stock was in and referent the small the relations it and what do you think when you mentioned and this law that was passed today
that any blogger with more than 3 thousand readers followers and as it is in the in the Russian blogosphere and what does it mean that they have to register I but not actually as far as understands ideas to the haven't automatic systems I'm but that means events special Russian non-government bodies who would have special monitoring programs are would monitors social networks and would identify those to their 5 more than 3 files and
for loss of course there's some ticket things for example of LiveJournal for I LiveJournal already decided not to provide information about the exact number of followers as is a good thing and body given the fact that Russian authorities that various skillful enough pressure and global platforms and that actually even convince them to you said the depict inspection in Russia just to avoid to be completely blocked time quiets pessimistic and any more questions in the audience the
it's salad and I would have won the minds of some work so I think sometimes like to bake platforms like Twitter are you to this sometimes get also much more the pressure in the these and
regimes on in these countries do you think they should be more active for more hold also in that kind of the opposing these measures because sometimes you see the kind of working together there's content or deleting content you think they're also it's also pick and task and you think they've been has to date been working behind the scenes on today advocacy in techie uh I
think that in Turkey we consider about Twitter is more courageous to resist against the the government banned you
to which uh apparently could collaborate beats a with the with the uh with the uh the government I think that the and no I b I think getting international platform there is an idea that uh I had the they are not confident about Turkish court so it Twitter resistant against uh this is this man but they had uh in a lake of communication between the TIB the in the higher the the higher communication authority Bordeaux in in non cut up uh who is applying court decisions so there 2 just said I received nothing from Turkish cord and the from the GIB so I'm not I can not uh react and then an error belonging to this measure to route to road to ban all Twitter so negotiation have started and I know that Twitter finally said we what we don't want to to open up an office in the into into 2 to load to to be in line with that the Turkish called because we can not uh we cannot apply old caught this decision because in many contend there is a public interests uh is uh had further referring to a to this a record on on airborne all the ministers for you to buy thing that you to is very controversial I have I know many cases of off some the pictures
all summer PKK militants uh on the on the mountain the that you to have found as a as a as a reason to ban some pages uh and I know that there are some
very it had a legal political parties websites are bound by by year all some the videos of our bound by by feasible can now and you too and I think that it is it is totally arbitrary because even into OK this is not any more of uh a how to see uh motivations for for the court to to ban contents and yeah I think some of those companies have felt some pressure from and they have started coming out with transparency reports about how they've reacted to notice and takedown said everything they're trying to improve their image in terms of their cooperation with various Governments and but it's important to remember that these are Internet service companies providing social networks trying to make a business out of it and even though just private media are also trying to make a business and they do come from some kind of a history of press press ethics and what it means to be a journalist and they are actually trying to do journalism you tube and Twitter and Facebook do not to journalism they just provide a platform and so they are missing that editorial responsibility moment and they are not a substitute for investigative journalism that with that needs to be happening but in yeah just
other quickly I think you're absolutely right because in our country and he got his internet for their system in November of deposit the wealth and all of you by April by Russian
forces that had the to board but all free global platforms Facebook Twitter and Google and now remove our content Humperdinck harmful by by the forces army in few hours so now it's it take just there are a few hours to remove this content because the concept under forever the whole services would be completely blocked and I think that the best way to withstand the such a pressure is to make this those public to make as much dust bottles you could as the same think that serve the face as Jonas are if you face pressure it is better to go public and to just to say but you under pressure it's at that them to me I think it's always couple good the the
if you it's hard to see on it's also interesting that you know in in response to the NSA surveillance revelations that the the main argument from a lot of the technology companies in in Silicon
Valley was this is this is something that harms our business and you know that we can't expect them to be M. you know crusaders on behalf of a free press so our and media freedom and what what do you think and what happens next I mean there's this kind of hope that that media freedom is it an evolutionary think that it goes there it goes forward you know that we get more and more media freedom over time and I think even though individual countries you know there always setbacks in individual countries but that and the landscape at least is changing very rapidly there's a lot of things happening all the time so there's a lot to be positive about and what do you think are the most important steps now for
Princeton's press freedom organizations or ordinary citizens who are concerned about this do you have an opinion on this what kind of the nexus for for press freedom organizations right now I think comes the release to be concentrating our efforts is to be
seen where where there are possible blockages on so where there is concentration and not just I'm not just talking about Rupert Murdoch's empire and everything but but thinking about these filters Google Facebook the size of them the extent to which they are gatekeepers and then they are private companies negotiating with governments and their business interests and telecom operators and this country is mostly on cable rights of how many of these means that there are gatekeepers between you and your media arm and it means that media have to go through these gatekeepers to get access to their publics and as you know we went through digitalization woo hoo Hey world digitalized now we've cut off the analog system we have more spectrum to give to mobile operators but mobile operators on our televisions around broadcasters and now are broadcasters have to go through telecommunications companies in order to get to the public's and we really need to be looking at this moment of access and concentration and and down and think about how all our media are going to get to talk to us in the future it an important gatekeeper that's often forgotten in the mix is something like
Google and in that is responsible for an enormous amount of traffic to me i'd nizations but can just cut and cut off for different reasons by algorithm by and you know whatever and that that they become very powerful and and we tend to see and those of us who are the fans of technology of fans of the Internet tend to see these companies as sort of and the good guys and but depending on you know they can just as quickly flip you know that we need to acknowledge that the power and you know as you call them that the gatekeeper effect of our mundane example came from Estonia where I was for many years and the country's basically divided between 2 major cable operators and this was before the the IPTV platform really
launched and in the lead up to an election 1 of the major broadcasters was not very popular with the government and some of the cable the cable operators cut cut them off there was a dispute and you had television stations that were not being carried by cable operators and this is a country at that time it was only about 50 60 % penetration now it's own about 80 per cent penetration of cable IPTV so itself it is a serious thing thing to think about tell you have also been involved in some press freedom organizations and Reporters
Without Borders and what are some of the things that you see as being and very important for people concerned with press freedom right now organizations concerned with press freedom
what needs to be done for a tiring of the interests of people move manner 5 improving the situation of of the press and will just continue to get Western technique uh I think that key beside this political interference to media uh and that these and media ownership of collaboration with this government is is is crucial is a is is the 1 with the essential part of the problem but I think that the all the parties the regulation of the lake of uh regulation and I can tell you that we are talking about and major landscape very very uh how to say there are great reach so the problem is not financial prices the problem is not the the the the the lake of phonics attractive but to we it will stealing this circumstances we are able to to kill the investigative journalism reporting in a in a in a in in a proper way I think that regulation is is important and that of course with the people who I am I pay attention to to the to that the contact that we have with people of uh media literacies very important uh so in the mid sometimes I'm not I'm invited a in a in a in the many scoring a in Istambul and I'm and I'm able to say how its and it's needed for people to have 0 for having uh a reach perception of of the ImagePlus proved the provide rallies and so I think that it's good to go for
people to think in a Haifa now about what he's made you know about the cut of the product and how or why it's so important to have sold uh so diverse uh media so I think that
intuitively we need to compute the leg of a part of the of the story the education part of the story but rooted at the same time uh regulating and that the media at most and like that do you think all I think that the Bahamas things the biggest threat we are facing if now is localization of services and
now the firemen Russia I'm in I tag Google I go to google . true or not because of the government pressure but because of the policy of the company at which try to provide
delocalized Additional of phi services and in this case you see that it yeah the ideas of governments and the ideas of corporations might be a dangerously close the old tried to presenters very localized versions of of things I have just 1 example now we have a Russian national so Chih-Jen which provides the Russians want map of Ukraine and for ukrainians complicity from of for Cray this is definitely crazy and I think that that that that might be the biggest threat because in this case it would be not the only about government it will be about Diesmann at the bit about habits of people and it is and there might be now they might follow thousand the situation that it gives the debt forget about the global nature of the Internet it would have nationaliser intranets and instead of Internet and I think it's a it's a very probable unfortunately yeah and on that note I think
and we can wrap up the panel against that live the conclusion of this is that we need to keep watching media freedom everywhere and and that it's never finished project neither democracy nor media freedom will will ever be at it should never be left to its own devices to watch itself and the thank you to all the panelists thank you for the audience and the bank few have face about uh also for you work for your biggest investigation in journalism and also for a solid for this interesting contribution from the science part and thank you to love for hosting this story as in intelligent important questions and we have another a break from our for 15 minutes and then we return with other interested it's thank you the