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moving certification because it's boring it's dry in paperwork on and always you don't have any employees who you can't tell what to do but it's only volunteers you have to ask and we really interested in in doing this and this is why I think that's up to you to go and try to get something up and running that would be able to do certification and I stumbled and fell so many slippery slope that I'm on
the verge of solving the whole thing would being here 1 day having so people talk to me that this is needed I've got some are some more energy that I really want to what was this but we need your help small anybody else who wants to make a statement about what certification makes sense or not and what about this L. Chaucer from I'm from a small college in upstate New York on the a little bit about this in terms of digital badges if there's some way to the you know have a consortia move organizations in some way that can agree upon some basic badges and then have the maybe in but but look for some sort of like sort of open an open course work that people can take in and somehow show their work in a portfolio that can then you people can can earn badges of some sort and so the idea of some sort of a digital batch framework that can be expanded in you know and built upon this sort of the perspective that I'm I'm thinking about I think that we would say and trying to all reflect this and and then you and then you I is like got your perception perspective from an education of side of things that you want to give your people leave your place some kind of a so that power about a prefers a right to decadent right it goes again the so I think that I think there is growing interest in general in this idea around micro credentialing and I there's been some some case studies and some work in this area and it may be a uh for something that's where there's a lot of difference types of different ways you can go with that it might be a better way than saying here's a standard curriculum that's you start here and you and here maybe there's a way to you may have little chunks modules that could have some sort of a
digital art uh certification that just says that you did something you accomplish something OK yeah yeah but I would picture that year chemical school and and I. T. and I know in all workers upon certification for important right it's 1 way that industry knows they meet a certain standard beyond the air the bureaucracy that perhaps of that we get so I think the same thing and the Gießen for importance your normal standards here a the Bernal standards in terms of culture you of something and I think over as a good model with the default for cation the developer the whole minority not why we don't have think Quarterly applications OK so I did forget you but here just to answer to this 1 so there's different levels of 4 different types of how you do certification and 1 of them is by the vendor they have invented interests obviously so they sell software and then they certify the people so that they certify that 2 people can actually use this after this kind of interest doesn't really exist in an open source project because most open source project is run by volunteers powered by small
companies they want to provide their own services so there is not so much a interest like as as it is in in a proprietary vendor wants to to sell their suffer the and so you and that and and and I this debris and I would say that the certification program would dry your training program because that is the goal is to get certified or gradually even with certain types of credentials I would feel Davis is doing with the fast for I think it's a great start to that in I think you you you have a quite a lot of interest in getting that further developed and you know filling out the entire sweep so on that I I approach it from the standpoint of developing a training correct the so that brings us to the body of knowledge so what are you certifying and the Jesse they're gonna be of what it was for 15 years it's amazing it's really be but it's completely independent of suffer its of its content is like what is js out as a work and so on but the the professional certification that offer as a different way of going about it they just submit so you're documentation what's a degree what so school the desired what conferences only chips you do you have a stack of of this paper then you get the stamp and then you have the the certification so that's the 2nd type of here the vendor we have the independent but more like content it's not suffer oriented now we're trying to find out what's the right way to do it for open source software and I hope would you build the body of knowledge for open source software for you the best example we currently have is huge is they have other working on on a set of similar questions that you have to answer and there can be randomized the questions out of those and if you pass those then you get certification so that's that's another way of of maybe doing it so there's there's many different options of so that I can have and I'm a graduate student Iowa State University and is part of our curriculum and we have to help develop extensions and work on the map window program which is also like you GIS so I can see you know a lot of that going into your having to accomplish certain task is part of graduate worker or PhD work in order to get and you know get certification her to be able to work on their and some minutes I could see it in a being brought into a lot of the university settings this in the nineties seats here a lot of the universities use proprietary software but a lot of that's starting to change now where a lot of these departments are starting to develop their own open source platforms which you know is gonna start bringing more more and open source GIS people into the work field and size research you want to do is when you start to make you run around so much but so high and reason was OTC and now I work on compliance and we have also talking side OGC in with Arnold about and yet they're recent need for compliance is will mean standards so what I think he's I envision well if somebody that is going to be and maybe open certified needs 2 things 1st understand the standards and 2nd under standard tools the out because you can get certified by tools as to GIS order is refocused old at dust or it can get certified by technology and that is very concrete so you pass at this if you don't pass the test they have the body of knowledge training etc. that you can provide to the person was to get certified and then you can go you know payroll beyond that is taking as his or her background by certified that you have not committed a crime I think that you deplore mice OK you with that you can speak Portuguese encoding Brussels I'm but again and the missing 1 aspect of this we're talking about as standards and interoperability would talk about technology missing the open source part it we will actually certified people on open source show me a pull request me some community participation and that's what makes this community here great whenever I'm gonna stick an open-source approved license on someone CVE I will actually know they can behave slightly in public and get things done in collaborative fashion of OK but just a quick comment on this is interesting because I we already developed at MIT spatial is there no such for being a bit later that we've we've developed a different aspects and 1 of those aspects is that all there is a developer perspective forest certification but also user perspective so the user for doesn't have to know so much about the open source ongoing you should be able to file a bug report without insult people suffer and and make it so that of a developer can actually do something with this because a lot of time is wasted and say this is a work across and about report model make screenshot and the text model based here present into the so these kind of things we would want to have users of open source know how to work with open source from the developer perspective and the the the the this so so you see it's it's already is getting pretty brought the whole thing so we have developers and users I want to have consultants who sell open source in the right way they have to know how it works so a consultant for open source should know how works and should be part of the archive so many clients who approach me say we have everything open source now I look at it and so what sort of it's 4 years old and account updated because they just hacked into the code without telling anybody and that that architectures dead accuses thrown away and what anyone there because they didn't know how to do it so the consultants should know how to consult their clients in a way that gives them a generic and updates on updatable infrastructure so we got our 83 or maybe even for and it adhocracy aspects self those no of you and I was
just gonna follow on another thing along the very same line set in a way we have a certification that certification
program and that is how many but that's a seat that in in a grows from the year period to durable matter that's kind of top level certification so here's the and that maybe formalizing that might be 1 approach you because 1 of the things that you encourage people not just the users but to commit any and it doesn't have an and activation examples whatever have all developers all dreaming about that's where the reality is that it's only a ratio of 1 thousand to 1 uses to developers yes so there's a questionnaire for comment some of you may be familiar with the help of pSp Mirkin society photogrammetry remote sensing they have a certification program for GIS remote-sensing photogrammetry and it's more than just filling in blanks and send a check to the organization is a 3 hour examination after you get letters of recommendation sent on all kind of a a profile of your experience and if you pass that face then there'll allow you to take the exam if you pass the exam and there's now a whole lot of folks around the country there certified that way but it is an international professional organizations that can folks is it
focuses on the conceptual site GIS but also support of technologies so all of you have to know some about remote sensing something well photogrammetry will surveying in order to it through the exam but when you're finished because against internationalization you have like other certification programs you have a unique professional number associate with your certification now what we probably need to do is have of really can a combination of this overall for the conceptual site and then subsets that might be related to the someday prospect of the technology so if have 1 level certification with a other technical options a group would go along with it the choices that person was 1 he takes on to make any sense so I guess so but I'm a little jet lag so half of what does it is probably lost in the sheer size of yet the fact that the 1st that that the parallel marks said to uh this spurious examination is on the conceptual site make sure somebody understands OK yeah concepts of the geospatial technology also concepts of open source and what i was the we have some people bringing up about software issues in there and so we may have of the like act a tier 1 or you have a conceptual exam and then when you apply for the exam you say OK is there like Q just or some tabs server technology that you watch so that you say yes you passed the conceptual example with an emphasis in this technology or technologies was we have like sub components with that as well the so small and just 1 certification
yeah the the this the it was way of that's another aspect is like the we of accreditation so if you're a Certification Institute and you have a curriculum that you want to get tested then you need to ask people ought to provide training and somehow we have to check whether those people provide the training actually provide the know-how that you're going to test later on those so there has to be some cooperation but it shouldn't be too close because it's too close standards is resigning as it suffered doing as a certification which is not exactly what we want or maybe not what we can do so what what we did here in the 2nd part of the process we we tried so to break it down into an online tests then reference and referrals and then a personal interview that was my my thought about how how it could work so that do for the professional consultants pretty going to test a consultant whether he's he's and in and knowing how open source work so on but then again this is a very subjective thing so how are you going to evaluate this so this is 1 1 aspect we tried to cover the breadth of what we're talking about because there's so many different open source projects and often it's not enough to just know 1 of them so most of the enlarging for such as the use PostGIS and you server and leaflets or OpenLayers so you have to know all of it to be a web developer kind of Certified Professional do need to have lot different so on all about different technologies on the other hand if you're suffer developer you can be certified for you serve as a core developer but this information is already there it's in the steps of the Jews of a project is comments that's there and once you have accumulated them and have your peers say that you are our core developer that should be enough already so you don't really need the extra overhead of a Certification Institute giving you that the tax a right and the you and I think and have to do but there will be again a a different profile right it would be the developer of profile would be laid OK there was a questionnaire just example and yeah my My comment here was on you know I I like to think about standards and I think this is a community that really appreciates and the standards and then works a lot with standards I think in solving a problem like this need to think about and developing certain standards for an economical back to micro micro right so if you can develop certain standards for uh different aspects of a certain tool and list out sort of this is what should this is what somebody should know in sort of a small module a chunk and you do that throughout the different tools that are being used and you have an I I like to think about as these digital badges right like the Boy Scouts and where you are in these badges and you publish those standards as a very high level agency then you allow anybody in the community to develop a training for it could be a face-to-face training it could be an online training of what the agency would have to the sign off on is that people that are taking that training are accomplishing that that skills you'd be validating that training whether it's online or face-to-face are and then you would then issue that the digital badge after somebody goes through so that that somebody meet certain standards for a specific micro certification so thinking about a large ecosystem and really planning out what your you you what what the sort of whatever and in it could it could it could be based on community in you know sort of community involvement and could be based on contributions no people that meet those things would then be able to know earned those badges so so if you're looking at a developer for a project you could see the types of things that they've accomplished that would then we link back to their experience or show evidence of what they accomplished so it's a much more open framework about developing essentially standards as your curriculum that anybody could then develop training around OK yeah my lounges just went off with a with the time maybe take 2 3 means more of because I have 1 question is really interesting for me especially on
you were talking about a high-level agency that issues this accreditation the the way that I was thinking about is it could be a collaboration of different agencies and so on but they would just have to make sure that whoever's issuing this the training whether it's face-to-face or online the people that complete that are being the meeting those you those items in that you know in that part isn't there were back to the to my initial thought was going to issue the certification and always you is not not really capable of doing it right now and I thought I'd tried to start this as a as a private enterprise and do some business out of it and get the money to fund this whole thing but where I talk to this is 1 of the big critiques that comes up well why would you earn money to certify me and who are you to give the certification so the whole thing really need some kind of level except that the body that would be would be the 1 to to issue certificates yeah or 0 . 0 1 model like the G IDI certifications to here in the United States of you know they were collection of uracil G ITA they as pure and some other organizations came together the on this so I'm role look and judge the I may be interested in picking this up out of the no but i . back to 0 as still I think maybe there is we need to work with and what we do our framework we've already got there and they do have the dual for all organization which is what educators that might be of so thanks for all your intention and this intense communication is very good for me and this afternoon that's at 5 o'clock in 146 the due for all our BOF birds of a Feather session is meeting so maybe some of parts we have can be continued to to to be discussed there well that's not fair
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Titel Open Source Geo Certification
Serientitel FOSS4G 2014 Portland
Autor Christl, Arnulf
Lizenz CC-Namensnennung 3.0 Deutschland:
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DOI 10.5446/31655
Herausgeber FOSS4G, Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo)
Erscheinungsjahr 2014
Sprache Englisch
Produzent FOSS4G
Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo)
Produktionsjahr 2014
Produktionsort Portland, Oregon, United States of America

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Fachgebiet Informatik
Abstract The growing open source geospatial software market needs qualified professionals. In general IT qualification proof is often provided through a certification program, for example as offered by the Linux Professional Institute Certification (LPIC). The open source geospatial domain has no comparable programs. This lack has been discussed for years in and around OSGeo which would be on of the more obvious contenders to provide such an independent certification. But certification is a decidedly difficult topic to tackle with many slippery slopes. Creating and then executing a certification program needs continuous engagement by paid staff which requires a regular stream of income. As it turns out OSGeo has (for now) decided to not employ staff but instead continues to rely on volunteer work, foster communities and stay independent of investors. Some businesses offer training for Open Source geospatial software. This provides for a source of revenue and helps to professionalize the market. Some of the curricula are jointly developed and maintained by the software projects and the training providers. This is a good thing but as yet there is no independent third party committed to quality assurance. The same situation can be found in the standards domain: The Open Geospatial Consortium has celebrated its 20th anniversary this year. It has implemented test suites for automated certification for software but as yet there is no certification program for individuals. The metaspatial Institute was launched with the mission to close these gaps by offering a certification program. It is geared towards individuals who want to acquire an independently recognized confirmation of their skills and businesses who want to certify their staff for a growing number of software packages. The metaspatial certification program is developed and maintained in close cooperation with Open Source software projects, academia, businesses and user communities. This presentation will discuss how the body of knowledge of participating software projects is developing and gives an overview of the current state of affairs.
Schlagwörter certification
open source
open standards
free software
open data
business
education
qualification

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