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"Do This, and also That: Integrating Open Source tools into traditional GIS shops"

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I morning like he said and 0 I hope you're in the right track that you intended to be an 0 separately with with less I think you all for coming out this way I'm kind of surprised at how many people here because if I weren't talking and the listing of let me right now and I wouldn't be here at on so I wanna talk a little bit as you can see about integrating open-source into traditional the shops and when any by traditional of course is proprietary based yeah shops of different text acts that we all know and love I am a little bit about me and coming from a lot all set up that way the say I came back here so little about me I'm coming from a developer standpoint I am a programmer code write code for food I've worked and what the different shops and public sector private sector some GIS specific shop some not GIS and I'm the only person doing programming and yeah so I had this stocks based on a lot of experiences that patterns in these differences of different shops like that of course dramatized for the slides but basically this is from real-life situations of shops in where there was against into a use case of wanting to you innovative open-source software and what what we did what we could have done in some cases the so can go over this again the the idea of just so we
are coming from common standpoint for the sake of my talk this is what I mean when I say open source everybody here is probably totally cool with that sometimes is a little confusion so I mean free software is freely available yeah probably know what India for use in speech is defined to model selection of some ground rules here so say you're a AGS
manager and you're interested in open source software for your shop that maybe you find is that the push back from users of the IT department he actually had no idea who on the same year when the GIS professionals in your shop but you refer to address manager who is a little bit of the old school many standoffish lives and many of you have on on the IT department so my group is tone locator open source or something I basically no matter the coming from probably a lot of them into the same obstacles that I've seen in a life that we've all seen when you start talking open source in a traditional gesture up no shops against proprietary most of your text taxonomy you know who I these but as a enough that I'm you know to be working with people who use that software further on along time decades and that really open to suddenly switching switching everything all against open source is not really a great business idea generally of input that allows the bound arrangement of robotic 19 users and we also see that I can also be any of open source to people who are not really a taxonomy or not familiar with the concept can be intermolecular scared that an open source stuff it's the programmers not for me it's not for users of so this is something that has a lot of people saying in real life from public too but 1 thing that
these users of managers or whoever you might be done really realize there's something that had fermented generally i've assumed was from other sources speaking on using it all the time and you just realize it so hard to do sort of flow books at those naysayers and they actually use open source is not so scary there's tons of it in use today as you of regular use another program don't be scared that because people will use
firefox in about 3 prior wasn't a familiar brands of WordPress or something that's open source software and the user so this is like obvious stuff to a lot of us here in this room but a lot of times we forget this obvious stuff is not so obvious to our users oranges or even RIG apartment in where you are especially in public sector quantum IT department a little unfamiliar so
hammering on that point that it's actually not scare not to meaning as something you are used to be really good and then you bring them back around GIS shop and say it's just as easy 1 integrate a little bit open-source GIS into your existing gender shop it's like telling you use Firefox severe explore it's not really that different and it can be just as productive Firefox is a lot nicer than Internet Explorer generally the of course you got all
these advantages that we all know and love about open source on management really loves to hear about saving money as saving money on license fees or on ELA stuff like that obviously that's a good thing so there was like hearing that it's nice also you're on tactical people generally like to hear about flexibility on a vendor lock-in of course if you're not using proprietary datatypes sources are proprietary stacks it's easier to integrate with other brands sex which is especially good if you're shop that does a lot of on maybe have a lot of clients we do a lot of uh integral work with other agencies of public sector other companies if you're a consultant something like that not everybody is using the same text X so it's nice to use open standards so that you can more freely move between those different steps sometimes also these
the same controversial point is also find think about advantages of using open-source include keeping up with the Joneses if you using open-source software generally it's on a lot faster iteration cycle so new developments new technologies new innovations will make it to users on make it your consumers a lot faster than a proprietary stack have like a 6 month or 1 year 2 year cycle where surface really set in stone and slow-moving so that's really cool people like seeing the new shining when you're trying to promote open source of them also I I like telling people that if you move the focus away from the tools at their use to the tools of the using now you can start thinking about the tools itself and start thinking about the work you're doing on something about the buttons you're clicking think more about the GIS that you wanted to a lot of times we don't realize how we're artificially constraining a GIS by being stuck with specific tools just because this is what we've always use we don't think about as a way to keep make solutions of the problems we can solve because we don't realize that thinking outside the tools this option the so the point of this
talk is to tell you a little bit about how you can find that middle ground your shops whether you're manager user or here's somewhere between a summer absolute yeah shop you don't need to worry about switching everything at once it doesn't have to be an all or nothing game I'm basically integrating 1 piece to piece of open source software at a time integer shop can be something that's completely feasible arm souls real problems and makes the actual solutions happen saves a lot of time and money general in the process the so the 2 points
on a going to these are 3 examples like I said drawn from jobs I want to present what kinds of had have actual problems that were solved by talking about bringing in open source solutions because we don't really have solutions in place for these problems for any 2 as little bit different use cases and each 1 has a little bit different outcome but in the end up in all 3 cases we had a total of about how we get solutions everybody was happy across the board from users to interested like a sailor yet dimension as re here because all 3 examples are written as but obviously can be talking about the so 1st
example so this use case the this real world scenario we had about teen using local spatial database behind as a gesture rather and they had a jazz map services environment and all of that uses the small mid-size shall all users were some consumers so they just had a jazz mapservice preserve our services coming into your chest so this won't find for them and they had some users were not really GIS people but they had enough jazz licenses to go around the there's consuming in the desktop application which most of the approximately familiar with but but they had some use cases pop popping up where they had public facing people that were not yes people that are not part of their company in the field access the data in a read-only format of the solution for this is 1 that that I didn't know this was a couple years ago were not everybody was talking when maps it wasn't the immediate solution popped into your head and that's still the case in all places you can find especially small companies and public sector past so they wanted to make some of maps they weren't really sure how to do it now and management had a brilliant idea that area smartphones which we'll see these maps some phones to because they were totally cool it is like this so the obvious
solution that probably of presents itself immediately to you guys here's leaflet on but at the time for a shop that had never been web mapping when they go to their account representative with as really and they say like what we do and edges as well we don't think you're yelling includes RJS online credit were not sure how much it cost but we can work out the call for you in the back here couple weeks and then after presented contractions like well if you use RGS online have decays like 4 flexor flash for Silverlight back in the day and the similar lets you crazy to have to wait for the shop that have like major developers only have like a couple layers in my throat for the public to see that need something so heavy like the flux pure and don't really want deal with another quote the had to get past budget approval everything online climate credits since they only have like a very small subset of public people who needed to see this data so leaflet Leifert is an obvious solution for this but just in case you're not
familiar with we've we've already it's not a JavaScript's mapping API and just like the IJS bird JavaScript mapping it get out of let's call they have a JavaScript API Google Maps everybody's familiar with his JavaScript API that of other layers of course on the leaf is very lightweight 1 it's especially that easy to you pick up if you're not really a developer just wanna make basic math 1st on it said superfast a spin up has really great documentation huge growing on user base so that there's a lot of support from the community and there's a whole lot of widespread adoption so everybody can answer questions about leaflet if you have issues because it's just like others over other mapping libraries is JavaScript it's not a new technology that they would necessarily have to learn if they had gone with the IGS online solution of course they're not necessarily writing JavaScript but there also constrained to Y a G gives them so they want something to give them a little bit of future flexibility because they anticipated needs changing but they didn't want to invest in much time into and so it was good for that also met their mobile mapping needs because leaflet makes great global map so you write 1 mapping that yet browser via phone work fine it's really light weight so the integration there's that work for these guys
as because they were already up using RGS web mapping services forget the long names there are introducing these web mapping services on and consuming them on the desktop leaflet has built integration can consumers natively doesn't even need a plug and so on it was literally I think like 1 line of code at later and like for to code set map so you don't even need to know how to code you just copy and paste from the website so what they got this was
our new stack Oracle Spatial database so behind it everything's the same RJS just map services a major step leaflet right in France as a consumer of those web mapping services the set out to the public users undirected map where's cause your dollars closely for is free open source of bitter minimal time to develop new maps about what it would have taken on any other text act they decide to go with they don't have to wait on there as account manager come back with hope for NGO credits and that's also a heavy management have users measure was super happy to see maps on his smartphone his like at the spring you so that's a really easy solution so people on usually on top already have web mapping are really sure what they want for but they think it's like something that they need and 1 old spin it up faster results fast and then maybe iterate on down the line so using something like leaflet that lets you do that and then continually have on completely open modification ability is really nice because you can get the media web maps and literally 5 minutes and then if you bring a developer you have a developer
that later later one's work on it it's a great step the
1 so by the way if you're interested leaflet do what I'm going to do and go find Vladimir stopped is giving right now on the Lifestream that the recording later to this problem can be super also the 2nd example of multiuser geodatabase this group I was really small team that was growing it started just 1 guy doing GIS for everybody and they add another person another person lots of his familiar with stuff like this and so they were on file you databases that they had a couple of them just living on a local file server they all used RGS desktop and they all contain the same value databases and ahead increasing issues with a concurrent editing data integrity locks all that fun stuff out there every included an art chair server license but they weren't really sure what to do with that they just sort of like had the CD in plastic Stonehaven installed the but they decided that they needed to you know grow get something as Rita around phrase enterprise your database they're like we need that whatever that is how we but we are many money from that every such server but they did have it already so an obvious solution be to
be present across the no additional money is set up yes which you can hear a lot about in about an hour and a half out but was yes was a free solution the totally met the needs of it so for those who are familiar it's uh spatially-enabled relational database management system so it's insane universe as Oracle Spatial sickle spatial and all those other things out but then I think that it is a give them the
ability to have a multi-user editing all this size data integrity issues are solved and as they could move into a larger more robust yes shop that supports additional users for and so has supported by like every GIS software that I looked into pocket television but it doesn't support I think there is as yet every sport so it was like 0 change for the GIS uses that in even notice a difference except that now the connecting to a database instead of men from Rochester instead of a file you database like all in noticed but it's very easy to set up there's great documentation and support on you can you there's an option to pay for support if he had no way to set it up so I can talk all about it now which is weird and but it's a very easy to get management to get on board with this because if you're familiar with things like licensing area lies with Oracle or a Microsoft for sequel server were talking about like I I don't know anything about the cutsize getting was like 25 thousand a 40 thousand a year for very small shops and fresh out there have like 3 yes patent is basically somebody's business terriers slowly growing they just couldn't even fathom something like that so is completely out the realm of the consideration so because of
the cost savings this was huge easy to sell them on on they were a little worried about the idea that 0 it's scary were setting up by enterprise you database we don't know anything about all so we don't know what to do with our server I'm so that was like a point of intimidation for the shop for a little fear fear point but honestly I'm it would be the same with any solution that they went with because they were a transitioning their work flow from 1 state to another and regardless of what's the technical solution it picked was they were still going to have a training needs and I need new not staffing needs that new staff training needs and workflows changes and so on so really the cost for this in the end 0 dollars of course because Bush's spring open-source odd some additional training there's great documentation for purchase online on any even as read when they were setting up a chess server has good documentation as redox on how to configure it with but yes back in with our Chesser and they realize it's actually not that big a deal at all because it's is like the web interface for a chair server and they just books and it's pretty easy because they had 90 team who did the actual database set up for them and just told them like your support the IP number at the address and you think about anything else so that's basically the extent of their efforts here they realize it wasn't so bad in the end they see themselves thousands and thousands of dollars and the on the and they don't have any more
issues with data integrity that the multiobjective and G. database and was also so enhances stack push s can work happily with our jazz server it gives you an enterprise database whenever you mean by that shop and that it doesn't really causing a speedboat for users because they don't even notice what's happening in the back and yeah so
the stack these guys like it said that she has a Jessore consuming yes desktop if they wanted to make webapps whatever down the road they have that ability of course costs no money it was safe and reliable the data is not a longer endanger sitting on a box and the somebody's desk they could be kicked the reason the same file and they also had the ability to have all those nice things like automated backups so that
so the last example are a little more complex than the last 2 on it but again great solution the open-source side so the shop we had our a shop that was public sector had a manager TJs analysts and the concurrent use as we are Chester self licenses they launched a couple engines in Summit can digitize eventual roster data if any of you work with concurrent use licenses you know that sometimes you get into the whole Yale down the hallway get somebody to turn off the lights and so you can use because all licenses are checked out so this is from the shoppers running into originally they were thinking OK we've got 3 licenses are to analysts can have a managers not into GIS shot all summer in the introduction 1 license but still is kind of bags in terms of their on the same basing our and they're just trading back and forth and also the manager can like OpenID GIS to check something in to assess at same time no I public agency no budget and summertime tossing the fiscal who nobody's improving additional license only ally so what they need was a solution that was temporary so they can temporally scale up the yes capability of me doesn't let those interns get work done for them since they're there to get job experience work experience a real shot so you don't have them twiddling their thumbs and also did you digitizing them concerning the 5 years service at times get to it the
so the solution for this of course we told TJs i t js for desktop
was your heard of it there's great sessions on today in fact I think moved to New here free fully-featured open-source desktop GIS software what I tell people is it same but different from what they're use to usually the GIS IQ JS is not I a different category of product is just the tools have different names of the buttons in different places in the workflow might be different but it doesn't seem worth the needed to do of course you get 2 and a half to convince you that easy and it's this we argue you I have with people they think that it's a lesser product of the reason this is so great for a
shop like this scenario is it's free of course it's it's very easy to scale up temporarily and then come back down using it for a discrete subset of job tasks like this digitizing task where the only doing 1 thing really minimizes your eye changing work habits muscle memory in your training needs because it takes 5 minutes for had digitizing TJs and then you just like you're interested all summer it's great and of course what a tall tall these guys were tell people that doesn't mean GIS for newbies doesn't mean it's like beginner GIS and if you're real GIS person you use GIS it just means that focusing using it when you're focusing on these small discrete tasks easier because people are too intimidated by learning the entire product what's the so the advantage
here is get scale up delegates and task to this end up paying for a concurrent-use licenses own can use at 6 weeks and you know others worked on that's great the interns get experience they get more extremes they got school education for that actually efficiently just before the like this is also my cash to go home and the GIS I don't have to go to context to that blue people's minds and that's to be something would change that the different religious argument the so the
news that they had they kept the RGS licenses for the analysts and managers who use that in here that they kept their normal work going ahead products that they had get out all the time so they can change the work was under the ADC TJs installations to the engine computers they everybody ended up learning together how to digitize GDI estimates so it increased the skill set of the entire shop even though just in terms were doing this work it maybe an hour of training altogether and most of that was the highest all the software on Windows I costs no money they got their work done they scaled up temporarily and the super flexible on any no fighting for licences which was also so the bottom line is that all these 3
examples are getting at is integrating open-source software can be great solution to many problems in shops nowadays take huge plunging change everything at once it's very scary for people to hear open source and think that means I have to change everything everything I've learned lost if 2 years is now obsolete they don't wanna hear that and that's not what we should be telling them what we should be telling them is it's not that big a deal it's like installing a new browser or an application i computer as learning 1 more thing that can increase your skills that make you jump were prepared you shop more productive and major capability in its so that's it for me hopefully I'm
within 10 slides are there if you're interested in seeing them on it has links to the 3 things I talked about the foot TGS purchase this power already on to find that please any questions if you've got in the context of the people a few things in the meantime read from the input on precautions but yes so we microphone so how do you handle version and editing version they impose yes yes multiple editors editing the same thing so it's been a while since I've actually done it I know it's possible I don't want the C. telling you look at the same because of that experience of that what I would do that have built box remember that bibles the only 1 question in terms yet of all and to help anybody I have you when you did the other thing with Q just that do you do with complex features not just connect the dots book lines or spline so they were doing a lot of what they're doing is like add her he wants from aerials so they're mostly simple polygons so that's part of why it was so easy for the training for In our third-party applications many times third-party applications are much more expensive than you know just the core GIS process all the integrating third-party in getting third-party vendors to recognize that they have a stake in opening up their data that's true yeah I don't know if you have a specific examples in a speech to but yeah that's definitely true point 0 yeah yeah not people forget about this the have you had the success talking to them about their more open formats like spatial light world to package specifically spatial a arm in a different use case I was showing people how special it is really easy to pass around because they were trying to e-mail shapefiles folders each other as i showed them spatial light and in that I think are just 10 . 2 is now supporting that if I remember correctly so there's a beverage happy to see the biggest export to it kind of but they want in 1 side and actually try it with them but I showed them how he's Edgardo well there's just wondering how that was just works because of ideas so were published that did as a services thus produced published their did as a service or other POS just works but it's it's not only the servers basically it's the same as putting in any other special is behind your RGS menus like the kind of service make out of it I am so some of the larger companies where the problem where there are 2 more complicated to invest money in you Sir project but how would you just go about getting those doors of I understand completely where talking about especially in private sector thing I don't know that blended into for that I think it depends on the open source projects some of them have easy ways to do that on the for support or pay for features but I think that varies from product to product in general to think through changes in how
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Titel "Do This, and also That: Integrating Open Source tools into traditional GIS shops"
Serientitel FOSS4G 2014 Portland
Autor Safavi, Sara
Lizenz CC-Namensnennung 3.0 Deutschland:
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DOI 10.5446/31606
Herausgeber FOSS4G, Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo)
Erscheinungsjahr 2014
Sprache Englisch
Produzent FOSS4G
Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo)
Produktionsjahr 2014
Produktionsort Portland, Oregon, United States of America

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Abstract This talk is intended for GIS users & managers who may be interested in open source GIS but aren't sure what the advantages to them might be, or who think Open Source GIS is nice in principle but are afraid there's no space for it in their workplace. In general, "Do This, and also That..." wants to address concerns of professionals who aren't sure how or why to make the leap from traditional/proprietary GIS tools into the wide world of Open Source GIS.Drawing from my own experiences, my goal is to gently present an integrated approach to open source GIS. This is not an "all or nothing" scenario: I want to show the audience how effective workflow solutions can involve both open source GIS as well as "traditional" proprietary GIS they are familiar with.I will briefly discuss common issues faced by GIS users, and explore the benefits of integrating open-source based workflows alongside proprietary GIS. I will cover use-cases for Leaflet and OpenLayers, OGR2OGR, PostGIS, and QGIS. Each use-case will demo a quick and friendly example of how a particular real-world issue might be addressed by the inclusion of one of these open source options into an existing GIS stack.
Schlagwörter new users
case studies
overview
introduction
integration

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