Cool, so we can start the recruiting session. Basically, just a quick info before we start how it works. Basically, we'll have short talks from the sponsors to present themselves and tell about the companies

and what they're doing and if they are recruiting or not and how to get in touch with them. And Ankit is going to be calling the sponsors on stage. They will talk quickly about themselves. They have around five minutes to present themselves.

Then after the session, we can basically just use the room to split and let the attendees reach out to the sponsors and speak and ask questions. Whatever both want to do.

So yeah, we will be calling in alphabetic order apart from one sponsor that have their own slides. So we'll be calling at the end to avoid switching back and forth. Yeah, that's that.

Thanks, Fabio. So our first sponsor is BBVA, so I would invite them to stage.

Hello. Good afternoon, everyone there. I'm a part of the team of Human Resources from Viva. I don't know if you heard about us before. We belong to the bank group, the BBVA 100%. We are a technology innovation firm

and a spin-off that belongs to the bank and we work mainly for them in the banking sector but in transgressive technology projects. Mainly, we offer solutions in cloud computing and also big data, but work with data science and we are working with Internet of Things projects also.

Right now, we are located in Madrid and right now, there are around 400 employees, all of them in Madrid. We also have an office in Mexico that we opened last year and there are around 100 employees there and we are planning to open an office in the USA

in the next month probably. Right now, there are more than 60 people, architects, software architects, certified in Amazon Web Services in our company. We are partner of Amazon Web Services. In fact, we were to the summit in Barcelona

if you went there. And we are partner of Google also, MongoDB, Microsoft Azure, and also Cloudera. But we are always trying to implement the new friendlies in the market, trying to give that value to our clients.

We mainly work for the bank but also for other clients abroad of different areas, non-banking clients. Right now, we are applying agile methodologies. We are working with Scrum and 100 of our project manager are Scrum masters.

Right now, we are growing a lot. We've been growing in the last three years hugely because of the investment in innovation that the bank are doing and that growing outside of the bank. So you are very welcome to join our team. If you are passionate about technology, you are, I'm sure that you will fit in our company.

We have a stand here on the left. So if you want to know more about our opportunities, you can buy on our stand. Thank you very much.

Hello, my name is Borja. I work for, sorry, yes. I work for I4S. We are very similar to Viva. We are focused on security. Our main focus is to create the solutions that are not mature enough in the market for BBVA. Any security solution that is mature enough in the market

is something that can be bought. Anything that is not mature enough in the market is something that we are involved into. We are looking for developers. We are a company that have dedicated the Scrum masters. We believe in agile practices as much as Viva

and most people around here. And we also believe in the mix of development and security throughout all of the software development lifecycle. Little more than that.

Thank you everyone. We are with Viva to the left of the room. If you're interested in security, if you're interested in innovation and security, please come to us. Thank you very much. Thanks Roha. I would invite my next sponsor, Blue Yonder,

and also would like to tell Demon where is the next one.

So hi, my name is Peter from Blue Yonder. Blue Yonder is the leading provider of cloud-based predictive applications. We are doing the best decisions for our customers, delivering to them daily,

and we are doing this through machine learning. We are looking for software developers, system engineers, and data scientists in all locations in Karlsruhe, Hamburg, and London. The best thing is you visit our booth, talk to us directly, or get in contact with us at a social event tonight.

Or even better, if you want to see what we are working, you go to our talks. I'm going to have a talk tomorrow about SQL alchemy. Sebastian is going to talk about infrastructure as code. Christian is having a talk tomorrow about air flow, and on Friday, Patrick will have a talk about splitting up the monolith,

how to get from a big code base into microservices, and Jan will show you how to visualize network X-graphs. So just get in touch with us if you really like to work in a cool company and be part of our team.

So the next sponsor is Demonware. The next one after that is Critio, so please be ready.

Hey, I'm Michelle, I'm from Demonware. So I just really wanted to give you a quick overview of who we are.

We're an online service provider to some of the largest video games. We're 180 people approximately across three locations. We're based in Vancouver, Dublin, and Shanghai. Some of the services that we provide include, one of the biggest ones would be matchmaking, leaderboards, profile storage, media storage,

social network linking, data warehousing, data mining. I guess the exciting piece is, we've been around since 2003, however, we were acquired by Activision back in 2007. So we operate in a huge scale. We provide these services solely for Activision titles,

one of the main ones being Call of Duty, Skylanders. We also operate with Call of Duty online, which is in Shanghai for the Chinese market. Diablo, Destiny, to name but a few. So I guess the exciting stuff is that we operate with a huge number of users. There's over 469 million player accounts,

3.2 million concurrent online gamers. So we get a massive number of requests, you can imagine, and average response time, 20 seconds. And again, we do get a massive amount of data as well, so over 10 petabytes of data. Some of the technologies that we work with, so we're here at EuroPython,

so our product is built in Python. We also integrate that into the game with C++. We work a little bit with Erlang. We have other opportunities that are in the infrastructure space. We work with Cassandra, MySQL, but a lot of our software engineering positions are more server-focused. And we also work across infrastructure.

So we work across multiple platforms, multiple platforms. So we work with Steam, Nintendo, Tencent is the CODO, or Call of Duty online for the Chinese market, Xbox, PlayStation. Just to let you know some of the benefits, I guess, for working with Demonware.

We take our work quite seriously, but I guess a lot of benefits for working there. 25 days holidays is standard, no matter on the location, so even including Vancouver, which is much more than the average statutory holidays. You get to work with really smart people. Pension and healthcare,

really competitive salaries and bonuses. We constantly have free swag, free video games, brilliant coffee in the office, it's a massive thing. And we have lots of team events as well. This is just to kind of show you some of the, this is a standard office environment,

so we have a lot of fun. Guests take our work quite seriously, but not so much ourselves. And here's our website, all of our careers are posted on the website. We have a standard slide as well, and my email address is here as well. So, thanks very much. Thank you.

Our next sponsor will be Critio, and I would invite the hired team to be ready too. Hi, okay, so you know you're from an engineering company when you make good presentations without a slide.

So, we're from Critio, it's not there, but we're everywhere, I'm sure you're gonna see us when you move around. So, Critio simply is a global leader in retargeting advertising. So, I believe some of you probably might have passed by our booth to find out what we do. It's simple, so let's say a lady here in red

probably goes on adidas.com to shop once in a while, but sometimes she decides not to buy anything. So, what we do is that we retarget you with ads for adidas, and then that converts into sales. So, once you click to buy something, if you don't click to buy anything, we lose money.

We lose money all the time, but sometimes we make money as well. So, the moment you click to buy something, Critio makes money, adidas makes money, the world is happy. And what happens is that this software, well, it's obviously built by our huge chunk of engineers who work with us.

We have a global number of engineers of about 430 people, and it's not stopping. The company is young. It's been around for about 10 years, and we're definitely not gonna slow down anytime soon. So, we're definitely hiring from time to time, and Python happens to be one of the most valuable languages we use. We use other languages like Java, C sharp, and whatnot,

but at the moment, we're definitely looking into Python. So, feel free to pass by our booth. We have a lot going on. We have great goodies, and if you don't want a job, you can come pick up some nice goodies for yourself. We have 3D glasses and all sorts of things

you can imagine. And also, we have another talk probably on Thursday from one of our guys. I don't know if he knows. I don't remember what it's like. We have a surprise talk on Thursday, so feel free to pass by our booth and hear more of our jobs.

Some of the top jobs we're recruiting for right now, Python related, is a lead software engineer in Python, senior DevOps engineer for Python, as well as a senior software engineer. So, simply, we're looking for people to join us in Paris, Palo Alto, as well as Grenoble. The business operations units

are in about 27 other countries, but which might not be interesting enough to you. So, if you wanna join us in Paris and in Palo Alto, feel free and then come by. We have something interesting also, relocation packages to help you, as well as your immediate partners if you have trouble joining us in our company. So, basically, that's what we do.

And happy to meet you, and feel free to pass by our booth. Just to be complete, the title of the presentation by Rudi Sika from the Creta R&D is Leveraging Documentation Power for Better Web APIs. And he's going to talk about some experiments they've done about web API

and the way of using documentation and generating automatically some nice information for the users. So, I invite you to attend this presentation. Thanks a lot. Can we have the team from Hired?

And the next one is Hotjar, and so.

Hello, everyone. So, I work for Hired.com, which is a job marketplace for developers, salespeople, and marketing people, right?

We were born in the US. We've raised 75 millions of dollars. And the principle of Hired is that instead of having candidates applying for jobs, we bring employers, companies on the platform

to apply to candidates, right? So, as a candidate, you create a profile on Hired.com, and if your profile is approved by our curation team, you will have like 5,000 of companies who will be able to browse your profile and apply to have an interview with you.

We currently operate in the US, most cities in the US, in Paris, the UK, Canada, Singapore, and Australia. And we have around, as I said, 5,000 companies using the system,

and over 500,000 candidates who have applied. So, basically, if you look for a job and you don't want to have the pain of finding it, you can use Hired to find it.

Thanks a lot. So, our next sponsor will be Hotjar, and after that, I would call Intel and Danny Soft to be ready. Hi, guys.

I'm Nicole, founder and director of engineering at Hotjar. Hotjar's a small but fast-growing startup that does user analytics. So, it's basically a set of tools that allows website owners to find out more what their users are doing. I'd like to share this video with you. That does a better job of explaining exactly what the tool does.

Today, most sites are built and improved based on hunches and guesses. But maybe we just don't need to guess anymore. Take Hotjar. Instead of guessing what motivates your users' behavior,

you can now see which bits of your site they love, where they click, tap, move, how far they scroll, and what they totally ignore. And by playing videos of your visitors, it's as if you're watching the screen over their shoulder. So, you can see what turns them off your site and causes abandonment.

But it doesn't end there. You can also ask questions directly to your visitors. Ultimately, this means you can optimize your website's user experience, prioritizing content that needs attention for quick and effective results. Overall, Hotjar's range of features gives you access to solid proof

about your users' behavior. So, wave goodbye to old-fashioned guesswork. Hotjar, all-in-one analytics and feedback.

It's slow, complicated, and inflexible. Suiting the insurance companies who like it that way, which means when you need to borrow a friend.

So, yeah, Hotjar's an all-in-one analytics and feedback tool. And a couple of years ago, more of the founders had startups. And the most frustrating thing we found was that we couldn't understand why people were coming to our sites and either not converting it to customers, or they were converting it to customers and just, they stopped using our service after a month or so.

And we wanted to figure out how we could get to know why our users were acting the way they did. So, we did some research, and we found a few tools that allowed us to do feedback and heat maps, but they were so expensive. And we realized that we weren't alone, so quite a few people were struggling with the same things. So, two years ago we got together

and we decided to build a tool that tackles exactly this issue. And we built this all-in-one analytics and feedback platform in Python and Angular. And these are some of the features we have. So, we have heat maps that allows you to see visual overviews of where people are clicking on the site. We actually have, these are visitor recordings, so we can see recordings of users

and see where the mouse is moving, see where they're clicking. Funnel analysis, so you can see where people are dropping off on your site. And a similar one is form analysis, so you can see what fields in a particular form are making your users stop filling that particular form. And we also have feedback tools. So, besides the analytics side,

where you can actually see the visual and understand what they're doing, you can actually ask questions. So, you can create widgets like this and ask questions in mobile and desktop. And you can do something similar with surveys, so you can ask even more questions, get to know a bit more about your users. And finally, we also have a widget which collects details of people who want to become your user testers.

So, it's so important to use a test. So, with this widget, you can just collect these details and then contact them and stop the user test. And just to give you some perspective, we launched Hodger just under two years ago, and we now have almost 200,000 websites using it. And to put that into context,

we have over 6,000 websites accessing our Hodger script every single second. So, you can see some numbers there. We have data that's close to 40 terabytes now, and increasing by about five gigs every single day. And yeah, the reason we're here is we're looking for Python developers. We think it's a good opportunity for you to work

with Hodger for two primary reasons. You can work remotely, so Hodger's a completely remote company. We have 19 team members, and they're based around the world, so in the USA, Portugal, Sweden, everywhere. So, that means you get flexible hours. We give you a home office budget, a yearly personal budget, which you can use to buy books, for example.

And everyone gets a free Fitbit on the Kindle. But secondly, you also get to learn new skills. So, we encourage all developers to learn beyond what they already know. So, learn more JavaScript, learn more Angular, Postgres, and 6H, and Lua. And ultimately, our big vision is to have Hodger on 10 million sites.

Now, this is extremely bold, and perhaps a bit overly ambitious, but having such a big goal means that we have a lot of exciting projects that we want to work on. And yeah, if any of you are looking for a new role and like the idea of working with a growing startup, just speak to us after the session. We also have a table in the main room.

Thank you. So, I will invite Intel and Benesoft, and also ask Red Hat team to be ready.

Hello, good afternoon. My name is Ralf Devani from Intel. No slides from my side, no movies.

You probably know Intel as a hardware company, right? Who doesn't know Intel as a hardware company? All right, two, you can come to me later. But Intel is also a large software company. Actually, it's one of the largest software development company in the world. We have about 15,000 software developers

all around the world. We work on several topics from low-level bias development, which is mainly, maybe for you not that interesting, but also up to machine learning, big data, and a lot of other stuff. I'm from my side, I come from the software side.

We have a software department, a real division about software. And we love Python, by the way, just that you know. Even if we're Intel, we love Python. We also have our own software, Python software distribution, which we are presenting here. So, like I said, I'm from the software side,

and we are always looking at recruiting software developers. We love C++, of course, C, C++, Assembler sometimes, but also Python, and so we are currently recruiting a lot of people. The best is to go actually on the website, because Intel is a really big company.

So there you can find all the good job offers worldwide. Myself, I'm more on the customer side, so if you're an engineer and interested to become a sales engineer and work with customers and travel a lot and visit new countries, just talk to me outside,

and I'll be happy to discuss that. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. May I have the Red Hat team? And I would also suggest STX Next team to be ready.

All right, so thank you for having us. It's always a pleasure to be at your Python, because it's one of the greatest conferences for Python in Europe, really.

Thanks for your organization team to put this event together, and everybody who really made it happen. So I guess everybody heard of Red Hat. What is interesting, based on my discussion with the people at this conference, is that a lot of people are associating us only with Linux, which is obviously still a huge part

of what we're doing, but these days, Red Hat is a huge portfolio of products. So the operating system, we have middleware, we have stuff connected with the cloud, and also mobile technologies. And Python is a huge part of what is behind that in terms of programming languages, and some of the tools within the Linux world

in the cloud area or visualization are all written in Python. We also use Python for automation, so it's also a huge part of our quality engineering department. So what is so cool about working for Red Hat as a technology person? I would say that the open source is a huge part of that.

So when you're working at Red Hat, you're not only, or your work is not only visible within the team and within the company, but you're also interacting with people out there, people in the upstream. Also, these days, we're facing interesting challenges because of the size of the portfolio,

so our products are basically talking to each other, which means that we are working a lot with continuous integration and really making it easier for our customers to deploy the code as fast as possible. So we have offices all around the world. We are a global company.

We came from Brno, from the Czech Republic, who are the largest engineering offices at the moment, so it's like more than a thousand people. And we're not only hiring in the Czech Republic, but we're hiring also remotees, especially for teams like OpenStack and Virtualization. You can work remotely from anywhere around Europe. So if you're interested, talk to us later in this room,

or we have a table in the lobby, so definitely come talk to us any time before Friday. Enjoy the rest of the conference, and thank you. Thanks a lot. Our next sponsor is STX Next.

After that, we'll have Travelperk.

Hi, I'm Kate from STX Next. I'm very happy to meet you all here in Bilbao. First of all, I want to thank you for giving us thumbs up on Instagram with the hashtag EuroPython, so if you didn't check it yet, do it now.

And also, thank you for attending our riddle, because at our booth, we have a riddle for you to win some interesting prizes and to give yourself a challenge during the coffee breaks, not to just drink coffee. And about the company, we are the biggest Python software house in Europe.

We employ over 100 Python developers, mostly, we use mostly Python, but also JS, and for mobile, Android, and iOS, and we are also having full scrum teams, so we are looking for both developers,

scrum masters, project owners, and testers, so you are welcome to come to our booth. The important thing is that we brought some interesting people here for you. We brought our CEO, so you can talk with him about business, if you want to know

how to be such a big, successful company. And also, HR specialist, and she will tell you more about the work in STX Next. And guys, say hello to the rest of the people, so come, come, say hello, and our solver rebel. We have both startup clients and big corporation clients,

so everybody will find something for himself in our company, thank you. Thanks a lot. Next we have is Travelperk, and after that, I'll request you, Demi team, to be ready.

Hi, my name is Tavi, I'm an engineer from Travelperk. We're a small startup in Barcelona that's offering a free service for companies to build, book, and manage the whole cycle of business travel. You know how in companies normally when people try to make a book for a trip,

it's complex because you have to book flights somewhere, then you have to search hotels somewhere else, then you have to grab all the invoices, send them to the invoicing center, try to get the expenses back. We are building a tool that allows the companies to manage the whole cycle in one place. So we offer, for example, a user directory

with user policies, so for example, one user can only fly in business because reasons, and another user just can fly in economy and then get four-star hotels, and because this other user is a very bad person, just get cheap hostels. So we manage this thing, and also we search and book for flights and hotels in our platform.

Also, invoice them. So the companies have a central point where can manage the whole business trip in one place. So as I told, we are a small company in Barcelona, and our technology stack is built around, on the front-end side in ReactJS, JavaScript, sorry, and on the back-end side, we are using Python with Django REST framework, Postgres, Celery,

all the standard tools to integrate with the different providers that provide us flights, hotels, payment services, so we operate this thing on the back-end, and the front-end consumes us. As I told you, we are a small company in Barcelona. We are around 20 people from 10 different nationalities,

so we are an international team, very young. We got recently funded, so we can run freely for some time, and we are hiring, so what do we offer? We offer, as a startup, we have an open vacation policy, so if you do the job, we don't count the days. Really, it's nice.

And again, we offer freebies, food, snacks, beers. We have a drone and a dock in the office. They don't get really well, but again, we are hiring engineers, and well, thank you.

Thanks a lot. Our next sponsor is Udemy, and I would request Yelp team to be ready.

Great, thanks. So at Udemy, we believe that through online Europe, online learning, we can help anyone build a life that they can imagine, and that's why we've built

the world's largest online learning marketplace. We connect about 11 million students with instructors all over the world, and through that, they can learn and learn anything, from yoga to Java,

from Python to parkour, and if you want to know how you learn parkour in Udemy, come and talk to me afterwards, and I can show you. I'm from the Dublin office. I'm the director of engineering and country manager for Ireland.

We have core product teams in Dublin, teams that support our instructors, teams that help businesses to use Udemy to help their people learn better, and teams that help the site perform highly available,

and at great size, and we're recruiting. So we have a stall outside. Michael is sitting here in the front row. We'd love to talk to you. We have four or five engineers here who will tell you what it's like to work for Udemy, and I'm really happy that you go and talk to them

and find out how good it is. So if you're interested in being a full stack engineer, if you're interested in being a site reliability engineer and working out how to help all those 11 million students learn all at the same time, or if you're interested in becoming a software development manager,

please do come and talk to us. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Next we have is Yelp, and then we'll have our last sponsor, Binder. So please be ready.

Hi, everyone. I'm Stefan. I'm a technical lead at Yelp, and at Yelp, we try, or we think we succeed

to connect people with great local businesses. Focusing on the word great, we do have reviews on the website, which is one of our core features. So we help you to find a good business, somebody where you're happy to give your money to and where you're satisfied with the service afterwards.

This is how the website looks like. This is actually like our highest traffic page on the site. It's the single business page. We are also active in the mobile space. We have some great Android and iOS apps. You can see them here. We're trying to show you Bilbao.

We're active in 32 countries. We have, you can see the numbers there. I don't have to read them for you. We do operate at scale, so we have some interesting problems for you to solve when you work at Yelp. We have three offices in Europe,

in Germany, in Hamburg, which is the second largest city of Germany, Dublin, where it's mostly sales, and London. So for you engineers, the interesting offices will be in London, where we have about 25 engineers, and in Hamburg, where we have about 40 people working in product and engineering.

Meaning that while at Yelp, we are a company that worldwide has over 400 engineers, we still have this, what I consider the sweet spot of number of people in our offices in Europe, where you still know everybody, you greet everybody when you come into the office, but you can still work on large problems and have a real impact.

What we're looking for, these are the jobs. You can read it for yourself. Check out our website. If you're not finding what you're looking for exactly, please come see us anyway at the booth outside. I'm sure we'll find a solution.

We're always looking for passionate people, and we have a diverse set of problems to solve, so I'm sure we can work something out. What we offer, the usual, I think that's more or less standard. Let me talk a bit about the technologies we use. Most of the things you hear about here at EuroPython will be using it.

We have a large service-oriented architecture with hundreds of services in production. We ship code to production multiple times a day by engineers. We have our platform as a service. We open-sourced that recently. That's called Pasta. Check us out on GitHub. We're an active open-source contributor,

and one thing I want to point out is that I really think you can make an impact at Yelp as an engineer. There's no strong hierarchies. We value everyone. You can really bring in your ideas and, yeah, change what we do.

Come see our talks at EuroPython. Scott just gave a talk earlier today. The room was pretty packed. I suggest maybe if you're interested, check it out on YouTube later. Once it's published, I'll give my talk tomorrow. And on Thursday, Loris will be talking about asynchronous requests in a web application.

As I said, check us out on GitHub, our open-source contributions. We have an engineering blog that I consider quite interesting. We're on Twitter. And if you're interested in the job offers, go to yup.com careers. And we have a raffle going on here at the EuroPython.

We are actually like, yeah, my colleague, Verena, is holding it up. We're giving away a drone, quite a nice one, I think. So just come find us afterwards or at the booth, and you can maybe win a drone. Thank you.

Thanks a lot. Can I invite Binder now?

It's working. Hi everybody, I'm John with Binder. I brought my time with me, who is my colleague.

Thanks for staying around for the last presentation. I'm sure it's taxing, you wanna do something different now? We're with Binder. I'm gonna give you a short introduction. We're our online brand portal. What we do is we enable brands or companies to manage their brands in the best way possible online.

Obviously, we do this using the best technology, which I am presenting here on Europipe. We use this to serve over 300 clients who in their turn serve over a million, many millions of people worldwide. And we have offices in Barcelona,

Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Boston, London, and Dubai. I'm basically reading out the slides, so enjoy. Just before I continue, this is our tech stack. Obviously, Python is the most interesting one. It's very interesting things about it that we do with Amazon, which I will be telling you about on Thursday,

if you wanna join. Now, before I gonna tell you how awesome it is to work at Binder, I thought maybe I'll text some of my colleagues to this.

Working in Binder Barcelona is almost like working in a developer island.

It feels like being your own boss. The thing I like the most about Binder is the constant challenges that we face, and also the fun that comes with it, which is of course made by the great team that we have in Barcelona.

Building the Android app for Binder is pretty cool, and the colleagues are cool as well. For me, the best is when the weather is nice, which is almost all the times. You can go outside and having some lunch, walking around the streets of Barcelona.

Lovely. I also like the location. The office is in the very center of the city. There are many things to do around here.

Also, if you need to relax and clear your mind, you can play video games, footballing, basketball. Just have some fun.

Last night, Monica. Sorry. As Michael said, it's really fun to work at us. These are all our offices, where you can just pick a location of one of these three.

We are in Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and Barcelona. That's where we develop, and that's where we work on our application. So yeah, the video we just shown gives a little bit of an introduction of how we think you should be working with us.

We really, as the slide says, we really believe that working with us should be nice and fun, but it should also be a place where you can actually develop yourself and get yourself and grow as a developer as well.

I think you can see it. We provide unlimited vacation days. We have daily lunch. We have the drinks at the Biner Bar at the end. If you work with us, we give you the Apple gear. We work a lot with Apple. Also the weekly messages and massages, of course,

and we work with the cutting-edge technology. These are the jobs that we currently, where we're looking at people for. Back-end developer, front-end developer, QA engineer, DevOps engineer. Oh, you can see it on the slide. Back-end developer, intern, and front-end developer, intern.

Please, after this presentation, just come around and see us after our book. We're at the, when you just come in, we are at the right. And now for my collecting things. Yeah, all of that security. If you think you've got what it takes,

just talk to us. We'll be in the hall. You can find us there. You can find us here as well. Shoot us a message, or just walk to us, and that's it. Thank you. So that was our last sponsor. I would like to thank all the sponsors who presented the slides,

and to finish and to conclude, I would ask Fabio. Cool, so basically, we are a bit late. Longer than expected, but we're starting the conference break now. I think we can still use the room for another 15 minutes

before the next, the lightning talks will start in half an hour. So if you want to, yeah, just, the sponsors can just split around the room and connect with everyone, and thank you for everyone for coming. Thanks.