Counterterms in gravity and N = 8 Supergravity

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I will discuss counterterms in gravity using the light-cone frame formulation and show that also in this fully gauge fixed formulation we do need a local symmetry to find the correct counter terms.
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this was there to go efficiency and which are in principle and all but this is to form they have to be in order to satisfy all the other generators is so that the only generators we have to check it how these 3 commute with each other so we do that then then without got a big a bit of a surprise to us because we got solutions for all values of eminent so we got infinitely many terms possible here for this so this is sort of a gains to what I was saying before that it was this was a fully fixed gage the area the fault fully fix engaged in and that's you that the underbrush should give you everything summary doesn't because of my wife we had sought general namely that we would get on 2 terms here because in Brisbane Ewing gravity that should be to Contagem said 1 of them you know this is it this famous calculation of tools development if you essentially have an hour squared and you haven't on new new army you knew you don't have your mural script because of the ghost when it ships of Asia that get to terms so we were very mystified by this and this check this calculation under times in over whether we have done in mistake with couldn't find facts another virtue of the form whether this generalized to to then a higher order can determine but you know where the only thing we have to do is that we have to add more derivatives but it's the same calculation because you know we do the calculations regardless of what is and what it says here that this week to begin you all to terms all higher-order candidates In the same calculations and "quotation mark will undoubtedly have to to variable is imminent according to these rules of this is the spin of what border I should say so if you take a 137 but you just have to put it was a 137 and this is the potential rehab I but the and you will have you know a fantastic number of derivatives but it's still doubted working so that was a problem so you have to go back to the drawing board again to see what are we missing I mean I've been telling you that you you could defeated by just 2 Inge the area and something is missing here let's go back you well I have to tell you 1 more thing was you also know that the these terms are 0 on shelves so how is that implemented here well as implemented in while it this close a bit difficult to remember that about the questions emotion fought for this field is this In my way of writing so it considered it if I look at it this box acting on an expression like that let me do it already has essentially what I'm doing is that a box on something with an age and age so this is a clear plus their minus minus there the bar acting
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complicated things the question is this had arrived the United deal like in any any good state Super Mario Soares if you really look at the details of fortunate it it does indeed it does not Close services His snapped a good out here and I don't know how to do it better Will never riveted to do any beseiged the supra viruses and all this but here we have in our here we building a two-dimensional theory into four-dimensional 1 and we somehow have parameters from the four-dimensional world which can help us to these things so this is it Citigroup theoretically it's interesting if I can do it if we can do something like that I don't know if I can do and on the necessary and I'm not been able to look at this for the last 8 months so but so I would stop the abandoned and I will not give you any nice results apart from the This is my own deliberations innocence but it adds really tells me and I think that this is a very huge cemetery which is underlying this series is the same unit within cruise for that ended in this this formalism and was it is very much like the square and includes for the soup refuses to square over then and you know that you can get all the things appear to have been trying to woo which also seen amplitude and you see here already knew that the level of the construction and I think there's a lot of things here which I am not understood which perhaps will tell us something but unfortunately I'm not been able to do more than this is not to let this stop there you I would like to fly the school and the use of unilateral use know you can do it by lot but this is all this is Minkoff skimming is using and that that but but you know but is also interesting to look at this size means because you what you really find is that you cannot when you once you go bust speaking to you really have to have all the guys bands that and will market right very nice formula like the ones I had you know full for this terms would do well suited for fried spins around and then I don't know what to do with it but it didn't make well many of I don't thank you the analysis of well you can but you know what it is all easily Is there a of 4 dimension but you were and where we have a note what we have done well in fact done it in posting in 11 emissions by producible oxidation actually did that this this I've said is a quite interesting you know because somehow what is it that you really telling but the adequacy that is the mission the history the spinners because you know all the information is in the spinners I was when we but when we did any performers started tandem mention somebody will just a composer spinners and we got 4 spinners and on and on on the way to do it is to do here can take over session of the expressions on our own every time we have a derivative like that which is isn't into we have to add to its some terms here you know with for example a lot In the the Indian leases we rights and like that and we have some there what do you do that does something all ideas and and so lot wanting constructing a new derivative center would you do when you you go .period emissions is to add indeed the coordinates and write a new derivative and that services then you can write also the tandem against and 11 magic is in in a very ,comma form I'm not sure that this quadratic form is working so well not an invitation some indication that the institutions of the fundamental part of "quotation mark well thank In her friends and relatives of those who do you think that the timing of the In you only the 1 incision from Brotherhood filled with what you know and and arrested I was in a sense I was not hiding it but you should when you go formerly Mary you would make you say that you have mail Texas and the takes Boreanaz 1 with for us it's the opposite that was that then it's clear that indicated that you're going except aches with an explorer and then you out in the in the old many but the fact well
I don't at this level United works just like resource but once you get to that to try to close it dozen which means that we don't really know anything about the numbers as winners of their I'm just using this as an infinitesimal transformations which the theory should be invariant under and then it it does it works in a way that it gives us the right terms but I cannot use it as some underlying geometry which I would have liked a but somehow I feel there is 1 that I haven't been able to see it this the year's brother philosophical view is you don't have the 4 you run the wrong fuel from the rules of the wishes of the of the year the the University of while it not the army-backed losses in bed but it doesn't know what I'm saying is that then you have to introduce new transmissions you know way it fiction the alibi will eventually close but it will close into more transmissions and the 1 I'm writing here but I don't need them in a in order to just check this but in order to understand the forces of nature I had to do so so what I would do what I would have liked to do is to to some substances somebody back which was closing all the whole remaining but this and not been a bit fun for the year well yeah there have been evident to really get anything interesting you be