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In this webinar, we hear from Simon Huggard, Chair of the Australian ORCID Advisory Group, and Melroy Almeida, Technical Support Analyst of the Australian Access Federation to explain who are members of the Australian ORCID Consortium, review the current state and achievements of this important national research information infrastructure, and how you can continue to support ORCID at your institution. Dr Laurel Haak, Executive Director of ORCID Inc. also joins us to provide an overall view of their roadmap over the next few years. The Australian ORCID Consortium is now in its third year of operation with 40 members, from 37 Australian universities, 1 national research organisation (CSIRO), 2 funding bodies (ARC, NHMRC) and the Consortium Lead, the Australian Access Federation. Since the establishment of the Australian ORCID Consortium in 2016, other national Consortia have sprung up internationally. Publishers such as Nature Publishing Group and Elsevier have also included ORCID as part of their publishing workflows.
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afternoon and welcome to the webinar state of the nations my name is Paul Wong and I'm from and neck Denarius and depends on the order of ends and are yes I could be coming from NRA with me today is my colleagues Anna and we have a number of speakers for today they were
three pair laments Simon who is chair of the Australian orchid advisory ruler Melroy male right Technical Support
Analyst from the Australian access Federation also the Australian consortium leave and that dr. Laurie ha from Hopkins executive directors so I'm just going to pass control to male Roy who will be showing you a short video this orchid the open researcher and
contributor ID is changing the way researchers connect to their works around the globe the orchid consortium is a community of Australian organisations that takes a national
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a part of the national orchid community the Australian orchid consortium maximizes the benefits for organizations providing a premium membership discounted fees access to local support and a range of resources then part of the consortium is being part of the
national community whether you're integrating orchid with your systems or working with researchers to maintain their records the Australian orchid consortium has the resources and support you need to find out more about how to become a part of the Australian orchid consortium this is a AF dot edu dot a you and search orchid thanks Mel right
and thanks Paul so my name's Simon huh get on the chair of the orchid advisory group and so what I'm going to do is cover a few things today about the governance of orchid consortium and what that means and talk a bit about the the work that the consortium does and resources and then I'll pass over to Mel Roy he'll talk a bit more in a bit more detail about what the AF providers part of the consortium lead so the Australian orchid consortium was launched in January 2016 so it's been around for some time and it was formed originally from out of out of some working groups that came out of so many research conferences before that time led by Ann's there was some discussion around what orchid was and how the Australian community could improve take-up of orchids to you know help researchers identify their publications and their research outputs and gain credit for the work that they do in their research so the the consortium has been around for a while it consists as you can see on the graphic there of 40 members so we have 37 universities higher education institutions in Australia who are members we have the two funders the AIC and NHMRC that are members of the organisation and we also have CSIRO is the research institution shown there on the graphic and so the consortium is run so we have a governance committee and I'll cover what that means but the consortium lead is the Australian access Federation so that's where the technical resources are an infrastructure available to help people to ensure that the orchid infrastructure works well within their own organization and they provide technical people and resources in order to do that so who can be consortium
members so membership comes from those range of organisations that I mentioned before so higher education institutions not-for-profit organisations and government research institutes and funding agencies the consortium itself is a not-for-profit organization so the same types of institutions are members within the organization so that we can help each other work towards ensuring that orchid has a strong take-up in our research community in Australia so this is why you know those organizations not vendors not publishers a part of that consortium because it's about our own organisations enabling that that work to to fund implementation within our institutions to be advocates for the for orchid and to be able to enable that take-up across the Australian community now membership does cost money so the consortium membership there's fees for to pay for your orchid membership and there's a fee to become part of the consortium which pays for those technical resources and help that are provided in order to do that integration and work with each institution in order for them to ensure they have good take-up of orchid within their infrastructure so the this is a
diagram showing the the governance structure around orchid and what we've set up so the consortium works nationally and internationally to to sustain the orchid community and make sure that we implementing best practice and best advice around how to ensure orchids are taken up properly by the community and working well within the international the global infrastructure I guess to make sure that that everything is connected and works well across different organizations so we have the orchid advisory group which I'll talk about in a minute we have the consortium lead which is the x-ray Australian access Federation and then we have the orchid consortium governance committee overseeing another worker that's done within our community here and there's also connections with the International orchid board of which Lori Hawk is a member and she'll talk about how that fits in with what Aaron's our infrastructure is doing and how our organization fits with that with within Australia we're fortunate at the moment in that Linda O'Brien pro vice-chancellor at Griffith University is on the international orchid board so she has been very valuable to be able to provide advice to international to the international community about how our governance works and how our take-up of orchid has worked within this country and around our consortium and providing really good input into how that should work on a national on a global scale and and working towards common goals to make sure that take up and resources and you know a good way of operating and how we talk about orchid and what it means in terms of our communities will work well on an international scale so the
Australian orchid advisory group is a part of the is it provides advice to the consortium so the the the Governance Committee it oversees what the orchid advisory group does so the governance committee acts as a key vehicle in guiding decision-making for the consortium in Australia to make sure that it can operate effectively and sustainably into the future we have representatives from fed from a number of peak bodies in Australia - who are part of that government that Governance Committee the if you want to know who the people who are on that Governance Committee it's on our AAF orchid web page and at the end of this presentation there'll be links to where that information sits and on that web page there's a page covering governance of the orchid advisory group the orchid governance committee and who those members are and so I'm chair of
the Australian orchid advisory group the the membership of that group initially came from members of the working party that was set up a few years ago to look at how we would implement awkward within Australia and what was the best practice that we could do to set that up but the the committee structure has changed a little bit although committee membership has changed a little bit in the past a couple of years and we've tried to get as many people as we can on that on that advisory group to ensure that we have proper you know diverse representation from around the community so we have people from the AAF itself from Anne's from a RC and NHMRC we have representatives from quartet and from call us and as well as representatives who cover some of the research institutes so that we get a sense of you know a real wide representation across the community and the advisory group which I chair we meet we meet quarterly
by a zoom and we you know we provide advice on strategy and direction for orchid for the take-up within Australia and what we should be doing in terms of strategies around advocacy for orchid now what that looks like from our own institutions points of view and from people we talk to and and from some of the membership that we have on other committees and groups within and outside of our organization so that we provide good advice to the the consortium lead as to how what the strategies are where they should be putting their efforts in terms of providing support to the the community in Australia and so I'm also being chair of the advisory group I have representation on the Governance Committee which meets once per year and so then then we we talk there about the overall directions for orchid within Australia and so some of the things that
we've talked about a you know what is their vision what what are our end goal here what are we trying to achieve so we've published a statement on the Australian orchid website around vision 2020 which are our aspirations for orchid and what that means and what we are trying to do is you can see from the slide there is really improve the take-up of orchid within our institutions and make that a lot easier for for our institutions to have the right infrastructure and the right people to be able to take that up and reduce the barriers to actually taking up orchid and what strategies each institution should do you know to achieve that that vision and we see a number of different bodies as being really important in that vision so it's it's about our own institutions and what they can do it's about the governance of our own institutions it's around funding bodies and what they can do to help achieve those goals and government agents themselves as well as that you know our own researchers and our own institutional members and you know being able to work towards a common goal hopefully by 2020 but you never know we'll see how long that takes to actually improve you know how we can actually improve that take-up across our institutions and what we've done is
we've developed so the consortium led the AF have developed a few stories here around what does that look like from each person's point of view depending on what where you sit whether you're a funding body whether you're a researcher who's applying for a grant from the funding body whether you're from an institution where you're trying to improve your research profile and promote your research or you're an early career researcher who is just wanting to publish for the first time and where does orchid fit within those stories and what what benefit does it provide for each of those scenarios those stories so we've published these resources on the Australian orchid website to help and possibly help you help institutions who wondering what orchids about and what it may to help you be an advocate for orchid and why each institution put should be engaging with that and what it means for your organization so I would recommend that you the participants here go and look at those stories because they are very useful and they can be used for presentations or information sessions that you might be running or putting on your website around orchid and why it's important for people to to use their orchid ID and just want to briefly cover some statistics so since the start of
the orchid consortium in 2016 these are the kind of numbers we're seeing so the figure on the Left e of one hundred and sixteen thousand odd affiliations in the orchid registry is the number of times that an Australian affiliation is mentioned in someone's orchid profile so it's a large number this is where somebody may be it may be counted a few times so because someone might an individual who has an orchid ID might have an affiliation with three different institutions so in fact that that may be counted three times in those numbers and then the figure on the right indicates how many orchid IDs heaven you know an Australian listed affiliation themselves where it looks like that person is coming from an Australian institution so our numbers of twenty-seven thousand four for us nationally are pretty good that they're I still think there's an you know quite a bit of work to do around those insuring that that information is kept up-to-date in people's or in the orchid registry and populating those orchid profiles with information from you know about people's research and about what they're doing they're still you know a fair way to go and I think when we look at our higher degree by research students PhD students and our early career researchers they may also you know this probably quite a bit of work to ensure that people are have an orchid idea you're using it in appropriate places to help them promote their own research and save them time in providing the same information over and over so now I'm going to pass on to Milroy who's going to tell us a bit more about the role of the AFS consortium lead and what they do thank you for that siren all right
oh it's consortium lead AF has a number of responsibilities the first one among them is technical support so what AF does is we provide Tier one technical support to our consortium members and we also escalate here to support incidents to the orchid support team we also provide all our consortium members with unlimited one-on-one consultations discuss the ocular integrations as well as provide advice and guidance with regards to communication and outreach which is good because the next point I was going to raise was outreach and communication so what we do with regards to outreach and communication is participate in various webinars organized by other research partners to spread the orchid message we try and organize events to do so we also participate in events and conferences that are related to research to promote the use of orchid and then we communicate with all our consortium members through various communication channels like newsletters community forum posts emails etc then with regards to strategy we liaised with our consortium members as well as akkad itself to ensure that our members interests are represented and we can provide feedback to orchid by appropriate channels we also participate in various orchid working groups to understand how orchid is used internationally as well as provide feedback and recommendations not only talk insertion members but also - orchid about what's happening within Australia and then we liaise with other consortia leads around the world to discuss with best practices currently following being followed by them and what they are doing with regards to orchid and then there's the raishin part which involves renewal of licensing agreement every year with Akkad and the consortium members along with management of invoicing billing as well as membership we also look at managing and onboarding new members providing them with the right resources and tools to start off the day integration now with regards to a
consortium member integrations we've had we've had 29 members who've done around 32 integrations between themselves which where some members have integrated more than one system with Akkad based on the graph about it's it's almost forty sixty mix between custom integrations and vendor integrations now custom integrations are those integrations where universities have developed their own application to interface with the orkut registry whereas when the systems are when the based integrations in that institutions who already have a vendor base system in place have just used the orchid integration inbuilt orchid integration to interact with orchid another thing about integrations is the
collect and connect badges and it is a program that orchid have developed it's an initiative that the consortium leader is going to be targeting at consortium members who have done their orchid integration because the idea behind collect and connect is to streamline the integration process as well as foster a shared user experience what we expect researchers to do or what researchers would be doing is as and when they keep moving universities they would be using the orchid ID in different institutions and the idea is to provide them with the same sort of user experience they get so that it so that it helps them understand what orchid is how to engage with it and keep that always uniform so with the
collect and connect there are four different badges we have the collect badge which effectively is what you would get if you are collecting orchid IDs using an aggression where you've authenticated where you'd get researchers to authenticate themselves to the orchid registry then there is display which is a badge that you'd get if you are displaying the collected orchid IDs Kinect is a badge that's generally given to institutions who have demonstrated the fact that they can connect their system to the orchid registry as well as upload things from their orchid from their system to the orc to their researchers Orkut profile there as sync badges awarded are awarded to universities who are able to synchronize their systems with orchid which means if there's a change in the researchers orchid profile that's automatically reflected in the institutional system and vice-versa in the next month AF will start communicating with members to try and get them to apply for their collect and connect badges where possible community
forum so another initiative that the consortium has started is a community forum for consortium members to interact with each other and establish a community of practice so why exactly do we want a community forum well we did send a response end a survey out in 2016 to consortium members and there was a very strong request to have a community forum where members could interact with each other talk to each other and find out what's happening with orchid in Australia what we've done is we've taken a national approach and for it to be successful members need to collaborate with each other and not reinvent the wheel also the community forum does provide members with a voice as orchid community support also monitor the forum now who can join the forum any researcher or staff of a consortium member can join the community forum and any questions you have regarding joining the forum please send an email to support at AF dot ETA dot au and we would love to help you out with it and how do you join the easiest way to join is to go to community dot orchid org and register or sign up with your institutional email address if you do not already have an account once you're signed in you will automatically be redirected to the Australian orchid community forum space where you can start posting or collaborating with appears so the
consortium also does a lot of work internationally and interact with our consortium with the other international consortium and what we do is we try and exchange information with them on best practices for orchid implementation as well as what we've been doing with community engagement and what they've been doing with community engagement trying to find that out we the consortium leads also an active part of a few orchid working groups and helping represent the consortium members interests in them and EF as a consortium Reed also participated in the first international orchids and social workshop held in Lisbon earlier in 2018 so these are some of the resources that
will be available at the end of this slide and now I'll just change presenters and pass it on to Lorrie Hawke who is from orchid all right so
thank you I think I have six minutes I'm gonna try to go through this fairly quickly so first thing I just wanted to mention about orchid and Australia all
of the hard work of Melroy and simon and paul and natasha is paid off we had our first orchid consortium meeting in January this year and we brought together all of our existing consortium and a number of countries sent representatives who are in the process of considering creating consortia and among the awardees you can see over here is Mel ride his splendid hat and Elena on behalf of AAF we provided them one of our first orchid consortium awards and you can see here information from our blog post about this but yes you guys in Australia the Australians and the consortia has been just really superb at building community your patience in building the sector and building in building against a consensus and a policy across the sector not just on orchid but really on research information and the relevance of persistent identifiers for that has really been it's notable so yeah we provided this award just to recognize the work of the orchid consortium as well as very specifically Melroy and Lina thank you very much not just for doing a great job in Australia but also for being as it says here very generous and sharing your experiences with with other consortia so what you've done in Australia has been noticed and replicated several times over in other countries around the world so I just might say thank you again and acknowledge the hard work and effective work that has been going on in terms of
around the world we now have nearly 5 million registered researchers we should hit that mark sometimes it's our and we have 854 orchid member organizations now in 44 countries including 17 national consortium and we should have something close to 20 to 25 consortia by the end of this year so there will be a little bit more clean on the map at that point you all know the orchid vision it's not
just about providing identifiers for researchers but really for enabling connections between researchers and their contributions across disciplines borders and time and it's really wonderful to see the work of Australia and the kind of I guess leverage that the consortio encourage service providers and vendors and platform providers to integrate orchid and identifier z' into their systems so that you can use these things and actually create these connections in the past year we have worked very hard with our board which does include a member of the orchid consortium in in Australia and we worked with our board and the extended community to create a Matt for the next three years and developed some statements on core strategies and we have developed plans mentioned for the next three years where each year we focus on a specific sector and enact those core strategies for those sectors so last year our focus was on search institutions we continue to work with research institutions but this year our main focuses on funders next year 2019 our main focus will be on bringing to bear everything that we've learned and developed with research institutions and funders and previously with with publishing sector to bring that to bear on returning the benefits to the researchers that will be 2019 so I'm just going to go very quickly through the core strategies and then if
I have a little bit of time to talk about some of the projects we're working on all of this is available on our website the about what is orchid or you can look up orchid core strategies in any browser and get to this page so we have four core strategies the first and main one is positioning researchers at the center of everything that we do the second one focuses on infrastructure and making sure that we develop a robust information infrastructure and I will never forget standing at the orchid launch in Australia and having the then head of the ERC say you know what if we're going to use this we have to be him to be ensured that the orchid infrastructure is reliable and you know that's yep you're right we have to make sure this is available during the last crunch to submitting grants for example we have to make sure it's available so that's a major major focus of ours the third core strategy is trusted assertions so not just enabling orchid ID to other identifier connections but also to ensure that the community has trust or at least understanding of who made that connection and plan and also can trust that those connections are traceable so that somebody can click and navigate to the source document or the source connector and the force forth core strategy is strategic relationships so we are in the process of developing a very strong partners Network and then we really see our sustainability through those strategic relationships and a big part of that is our consortium and ensuring that we have strong relationships with consortia and that each consortium happens in Australia is a very strong leadership component that is supported by the local community so as I mentioned I'm really really pleased with the example that Australia has set for the rest of the world in each of these core
strategies we have specific projects I don't think I really have a lot of time to go through this but for researchers looking at you know enabling them to share information through using their identifiers we're spending a big chunk of time this year collecting evidence and this is a project that dovetails with work that they are doing we've
added new affiliation categories we've been have been supporting employment and education and we've added qualifications to education as well as invited positions distinctions membership service and this is available very very soon end of April I think it was pushed off by a week but if you're a developer you can play around with this API 3.0 and the sandbox and we'll have these additional affiliations in there you've
done a lot of work on research resources and I know Saira has been interested in this and we are going to be adding a new section to the orchid record to store information and connections between researchers and the resources that they use to do their research and there is an
example of what this looks like in the working record this is already being used by Oak Ridge and pnnl which is Pacific Northwest National Laboratory here in the United States and there are a number of other organizations working on this
as I mentioned we're doing and collecting the evidence demonstrating the benefit of orchid both from the perspective the researcher as well as organizations we have been launched a project called orbit where it says very much focused on bringing funders together this now includes 13 funding bodies from 11 countries including the AARC and other funders in the region including the Japan Science and Technology Foundation and MB in New Zealand we are working on trusted
assertion so what is an assertion mean and a whole host policies around that which you will see more about as well as compliance with GDP are the European data transfer regulation and then as I
mentioned the strategic relationships the regional strategies both internally enhancing our infrastructure making sure that our consortium are able to support the local community we're looking at member models for very small organisations and I mentioned the partnership rogram so that's it for me all right there you go Paul thank you very much for the opportunity to present
it on the perspective all I show my screen there's no point so what to do is to perhaps just open up the floor for questions and Q&A we've got about 15 20
minutes so if anyone in the audience have further questions please use the chat box and can I mention Paul that we are planning on having an orchid roundtable meeting in Canberra around about the fifth of September later in the year to bring together stakeholders and anyone who's interested to be able to ask questions and to look at where our development is going and I guess including people like funders and publishers who may not have too much of an opportunity to talk about orchid and how they improve their take up and what that means for them so that's in in September in Canberra so there's an opportunity there for people to come along and actually talk to us face-to-face and and I can participate in workshops there I do have
a question the sounds follicle requests any chance you you can make current
information mandatory for researchers who sign up it is so hard to tell you if they are our people I guess that's that's a questions for Laurie yeah so this was a big thrust
last year and it continues to this year is to have there be a connection made when a researcher registers that there is a connection also with their University so that the university can store the identifiers in the university database which ever or wherever that is designated and then post back into the orkut record the affiliation for that individual so there's actually a handshake between the individual and the university that allows the push and pull of information between orchid and the university there are now I think close to a hundred I think universities that are doing this push and pull and putting organization information employment or education into the orchid record the benefit for the organization is exactly as you say you know who your researchers are because you've collected their ID you can effectively communicate that this researcher is one of yours the information that shows up on the orchid record also has the source on it listed clearly and the source can be that of the institution itself so it's also a benefit for the institution as well as the researcher when they go now to publish a paper or submit a grant publishers and funders are starting to pull information from the orchid record to help populate forms like manuscript submission or grant application systems and that statement of affiliation the organization name it's identifiers and deep role of the individual can be easily pulled into doubles submission system so that's what we're trying to do is work with you the institution to get that handshake happening and to have the institution actually put the affiliation information into the orkut record long answer for me with regards to an institution affiliation the easiest and the best way to get that done is as Laurie mentioned for organizations when they set up their integration to be able to write that immediately to their researchers Orkut profile affiliation data is something that University is all and they are the ones that can actually say whether a researcher is doing research work with them is employed by them then your graduate student studies with them if an academic staffs employed by them they are the ones that have that data so it's the easiest way to actually get affiliation information into somebody's orchid record is for the universities itself to do it as part of the signup process when they get their researchers to sign in why the system that's the best way to do it it saves and that way they can then keep track of which researchers are affiliated to their institution yeah there is a pace of this around privacy and permission that kind of thing so it's awkward are very careful to ensure that you know we ask researchers for their permission to do what we need to do so there there is a bit of a piece there around making sure that that permission is granted and then we can use that as part of that assertion information so there is a bit of work Laurie in that in that regard I guess around permissions and ensuring that researchers aren't asked 20 thousand times for permission for different things but also know what permission they're giving and at the right time and that that's it's sort of understood and well-known assertions policy that were on this year's to clarify or streamline some of that permissioning piece and also to allow sharing of well to get a little bit technical to allow service providers access to memory api credentials so there's a smoother flow of information the critical piece there is making sure that the researcher remains informed that who is handling their information and where it's ultimately being used so okay I've got I work with researchers that produce a lot of non-traditional outputs I guess those integrative arts and humanities five records and often are not always at the to describe this work are there any plans to review or revised options for these researchers and again I guess that's a question for Laurie right so um orchid handles over 30 work types however we have largely focused in the first few years on journals we have been increasingly engaging with book publishers but you're right that doesn't cover the wide range of contributions that a researcher or scholar can make so we're in continue to look for opportunities to work with repositories other other places where digital descriptions of works are stored so that these connections between orchid IDs and those works can be made and so we're really eager to hear your ideas for where which repositories we can be interacting with and we would be happy to partner with you to help to work and collaborate with those platforms to set up on interactions where an individual can connect their identifier storing it in orchid isn't I don't think would be too much of a challenge the issue is how to get it in there and I'm really reluctant to ask a researcher to type stuff in the orchid record that really the purpose of what we're trying to do so help us understand where the information sources are and I were more than happy to work with you and those platforms to to enable in connection another questions here in relation to the orbit project is it possible to have an update on the orbit project and likely time that it might be used by funders like Parc yeah so AARC is part of the orbit project my understanding is the ERC has a timeline for orchid integration into their systems I think they've started and so the objective with orbit is to get the funders to share with each other what their plans are and I believe that the ERC is participating in one of the early pilots to actually demonstrate orchid integration in their grant application system and I think I'm kind of speaking out of turn here but I think their plan was to have the integration online in 2019 so but will be we are trying to do regular blog posts with the orbit project and as soon as we know more about the timing of various funder implementations we will communicate those through the orchid blog is it
common for all can argue to also populate a researchers profile in their institutional research management system I guess this is a general questions for everyone yeah so from a service provider perspective it depends on the kind of integration between the research institution and orchid and there's different platform providers that have different methods and we do see a general trend that service providers can may think pull information from orchid into their platform but not all service providers put information from the platform into orchid or vice versa so it really depends on the platform that the university or research institution is using but certainly it is possible to go one or the other or both directions it's all of that is very technically possible and and exists today I think it's really Melroy be interesting to hear from you kind of what the trend is in Australia given the various sort of provider platforms that are used for exchanging information with regards to exchanging information what we've at least what we've been speaking with librarians and those that are doing the community and outreach activities is that to get researchers when they sign up if the integration if it's not the repository that's actually being integrated with a researchers Orkut profile so that they can push that data onto the Orkut profile is to get the researchers to use the existing crossref api's the data site api is as well as you Scopus a researcher ID search and link wizards within the orchid within the orchid website itself to be able to retrospectively add their papers having said that most publishers we've spoken to generally asking for orchid IDs right now and there have been a few instances where we've seen on Twitter that a researchers actually published a paper and it hasn't yet come out in a publication but because a DOI was minted for it and they had the orchid ID associated with it it's automatically populated into the orchid records so there has that that that sort of stuff has been happening it's yeah it it is it is possible to have that happen automatically but there is also a level of work that needs to be done in the first instance in registering and getting it to do so because with orchid the only way a researcher will have something added to their profile is if they explicitly give someone permission to do that you can't just add anything into their profile you know I could tuck it add to that that in the repository community in Australia there's still quite a bit of work to not only just have orchids within repositories but also displaying them on webpage on the within the metadata that people can see and then also populating the repositories with metadata about publications and that sinking so that collect and that connect and the sinking there's still a lot of work to do within the Australian repository community to make that happen so quite a bit of work has been done with the publication harvesting systems that people have but the actual external facing repositories there's still quite a bit of work to do what we found with some repositories is that there isn't always the concept of a person and so bringing in a person identifier if there's no concept of a person is uh it's hard ok so there's there's kind of a database refactoring aspect as well and in some repository systems so it's nice to see for example in the UK just helped to sponsor eprints to develop an module that actually allowed for the concept of a person which then enables IDs for people to be stored and information to be exchanged more readily so I think that'll probably that kind of thing we'll probably be able to happen with other kinds of repo systems yeah yeah the Cole the Cole consortium last year I think of as last year did we did a survey of repository managers which we do almost every year and yeah I think it was 39% of repositories can display a risk you know an orchid ID they're actually doing that with in there ' 9% so there's still a way to go you need to be a consortium
member to use the API to automatically pull in publications to a website sorry oh uh well yeah so to automatically to be notified if you want to get automatic notifications from work it that is a member API function however you can use the public API to query the orchid registry the public I only provides access to the bat information which a researcher has Marge public so there may be some items that are not accessible through the public API so if you want updates provided then you should become a member and you can receive those notifications I think the other piece there is that in many cases updates you would like tied to the researchers that are at your institution and the way to know who those researchers are is to have them connect their ID into your system and give back affiliation information so they can use it when they publish so yes there's a lot you can do with the public API but there's a lot more that you can do when you use the member API so no I don't know what you'd like to add I know that was almost the same thing so yeah just covered it oh yeah I think I got the last questions yeah two questions are the same same questions really request more anything to have linked to the those use case user stories is basically this off the a website isn't it yes just off the af website and what I'll do is any question and answer box can I take that in no I think Paul will have to type that in to send it to everybody maybe we'll follow up with email notifications when the video is available and in that email I'll include the set of resources and material it's the same thing with the slide so in the slides right at the end there there are a couple there were a couple of slides with regards to resources the resources at the link is over there so it is definitely in one of those links that particular resource yes so that URL has been sent to everyone now with that note we have pretty much cover order all questions and on that note I have to thank all three speakers for time to talk to the community and thank you thank you thank you very much photography is the last thing to announce in terms of pending activities a big Simon mentions a public forum later this year Melroy from your anythings yes there are a couple of things so one thing is we've already started off the community forum and what we're trying to do is try and get more people to start participating in it asking questions collaborating with the appears finding out what other institutions have done how we can contribute to this discussion in building the community but another thing that we also are going to start doing is what I mentioned about the collect and connect badges because we feel that we need to get a consortium members getting these badges we've got 29 institutions have already integrated and of them only four or five of them have they collect and connect badges so the next step is try and get everybody who's done an integration with the collect and connect badges the only thing that's that stopping us at this point is there have been some changes to the collect and connect badges with regards to the rules and what needs to be done to demonstrate that you've qualified for them so yes once we get a little bit more detail on that I'll send an email out to all our consortium members letting them know that we can go ahead and do it so stupid been finalized and it should actually be easier now to get the first two badges yeah that should be coming out middle of May so so yeah with the exception of that yeah these are some of the main things that we would like to see done in 2018 is the community forum so get a lot interaction on that because that is something that the community has strongly asked for so it's something you'd like to see succeed I understand he said that now I am is 510 armed SWAT 18 in Hobart too right yes we we also attended we've put in our pre-conference workshop for arms 2013 and part of that is looking at akkad in australia and looking at some of the institutions that have done the integration how it was before kid how it is after orchid what are the plans and I do believe that we may have NHMRC coming in and talking a bit more about their new research grant management system and how it incorporates orchid into it so yes it would be quite it will it will be quite interesting that sounds great for those who come from research office look out for the AF and John workshop with possible presentation from the HMRC at the end 2018 robot conference now if that notes I thank all the participants participating today thank you thank you very much for thanks bye